Fino
Smash Master
I run to the edge, tether drop cancel a few times / do stuff in between.... that's 6 extra ledge grabs =/ lol - worst john ever XDstuff
~Fino
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I run to the edge, tether drop cancel a few times / do stuff in between.... that's 6 extra ledge grabs =/ lol - worst john ever XDstuff
Ok... 10-15+6=21 tops. That's half of the proposed limit, so I don't really see how you are making a good point at all. Still, I bet that you do average 10-15 grabs per game, regardless of what you may think. Like AZ said, check sometime. Olimar especially tends to not grab the ledge very much.
I run to the edge, tether drop cancel a few times / do stuff in between.... that's 6 extra ledge grabs =/ lol - worst john ever XD
~Fino
Exactly, stuff like this is exactly why a strict ledge-grab limit, especially one that is so low, seems unnecessarily inhibiting.Fino said:...you also realize characters like rob have terrible ledge-to-stage options. Therefore, attacking from the ledge and re-grabbing can be a necessity for recovering safely more than a stalling strategy.
Out of curiosity, do you think that the other characters I listed honestly have any problem whatsoever with planking? There are others that I didn't list that can do fine against it, but I hope you get the point.Actually Diddy's not that great at stopping planking. I mean he has more tools that most characters to start with, but he still falls prey to it IMO.
Yeah... If there was a limit, anything much under 50 would be way too low.Just a little food for thought, when I camped out Larry on SV at Genesis I had 34 ledge grabs on an 8 minute timer without ever intentionally planking. Against Sk92 at AG on BF I also had in the 30s without ever intentionally planking.
I was camping but I never had the intention of planking and I was in mid 30s both times on an 8 minute timer. Just throwing that out there.
I frown on such hallow practices :\lol this is so gay I quit brawl
Seriously just throw in a rule so texas doesn't cry and plank to "prove a point" its not like its going to affect anything ever anyways
Thank you.Ledge grab limit stupid.. to be honest the only time I would plank is if I'm teaming with lee but I don't even think Lee attending (he might though... lol). But yeah don't worry about the LGL so much Bobby it's not like you're going to go far enough in the bracket to actually play me . (Anyways bobby only complaining about LGL since his wario doesn't need a ledge to run time out).
This post and others is awful. You're just out on this ROB vendetta. Why, cause ROB beats Diddy?Did you learn nothing from Genesis and COT4? The Judges rule would only work at a tournament with <50 people and a ledge grab rule will only work if it is <40 grabs per game.
The irony here is mainly ROB mains hate the ledge grab rule cause after MK it affects them the most. They hate it cause they have to change their strategy, and yet that is the exact same thing they are asking MK mains to do when they say "no planking".
I've run now 5 tournaments with the edge grab rule at <30, including EVO2k9. There were no problems at any tournaments and no one planked.
Couldn't you just use that gas to go away and up in a snake like fashion to get back on?Facing any somewhat intelligent player it should be impossible for me to get off the ledge and onto the stage without taking damage from an attack unless there is the aid of a smashville platform (and similar things), or having enough gas to fly under the stage to the other side. I have to sort of ledge camp a bit to wait for my opponent to mess up so I can use the opportunity to get back on the stage.
There's still so much more to be said but this is fine for now.
Camping with a projectile is not planking. Falco IS fighting when he's shooting lasers. Plus, characters can approach you if you're using your projectile. Approaching a planking MK is MUCH more difficult and put you in a lot worse position (obviously depends on which character you are, but in general it's a lot safer to approach a camping Falco thank a planking MK.You're such a whiner Cookie, jesus.
That match wasn't even bad at all. They were both enabling planking so there's nothing about that match that gives any proof to planking being a problem. It wasn't like one of them was planking and the other couldn't do anything, they were both just camping and not doing anything.
If they give the warning after you hit 40 then you broke the rule. That's no different than if there was no warning anyway. But if you've already hit 40 by that point then you probably already know you're planking, eh? You see, if a judge were to decide it then the other player has to let you know that he thinks you're planking anyway so a judge can be called, but this way it is objective. Rather than letting a judge decide arbitrarily it's best to have a concrete rule so there can be no contesting it.and what if that person gives u the warning after u hit 40? this warning can't b proven. at that point u might as well have the person call over a judge to watch the rest of the match if stalling is suspected.
also plank v puff ended on second stock as well. no fuss was caused over that either at the tourney unlike at genesis. it was a lot worse imo too. go search it on utube, its there
I recommended a 35 edge grab limit at Genesis. Dojo had 39 edge grabs and the match timed out. He was definitely planking at times and definitely air camping at times. The difference was that when he air camped Larry got hits in and when he planked Larry didn't.As for the judges rule I said. I don't like that either, I hate it, however - it's more legit than a ledge grab rule. I'm against all opinionated rules. But if it was used at Genesis - if Larry was pissed during the match about what Dojo was doing - he could pause the match, call over a judge, and have them watch the rest. That's how it works. Have like 4 stalling judges at this event, there wont be more than 4 matches at any given time that need it. But even still, how was Dojo v Larry bad? What would a anti stalling judge have told Dojo? Uhhhh.... stop jumping? lol Wtf.
Not against falco! >:[fino you've never intentionally ran to a ledge just to grab it.
You will hang onto the ledge to reshuffle your pikmin so that a "Purple Pikmin" is out in front of your line up so that you can throw it on stage in hopes of being able to recover safely. I don't consider this planking but someone else could when you are clearly trying to get back on stage since olimar has terrible Ledge-To-Stage options. I just think that this rule has ways of being avoided (unfortunately). Planking, IMO, takes out the true skill in the game when a player has to result to re-grabbing the ledge X amount of times in order to beat their opponent because they do not think that they can do so by just playing the match out.
Not against falco! >:[
~Fino
Ok done. Ill need to put these in my sig so I remember.MJG, put down $5 vs. me if you're willing.
I played you in pools at No Koast v2 and I want some revenge.