Vinnie
Smash Master
*sees losing to *
*sees being even with *
*sees being +2 with who he is even with*
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*sees being even with *
*sees being +2 with who he is even with*
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And yet he complained that his belly was not full.Yoshi:ICs are at least even.
I concur.Wolf vs Yoshi is at least 8:2 wolf. btw.
I'm being pretty serious.I can't tell if you guys are joking or not. ._.
Still a little upset about MK/Peach being only +2
but peach haz to have gud matchups so she can be high turr.vinnie said:OMFG AT PEACH DEDEDE BEING EVEN LMFAOOo!!!!
Air mobility, eggs, and egg lay.Why is Yoshi good vs ICs? Is it hard for ICs to grab/CG Yoshi?
Orion?
He's a MK main isn't he?
I second ICsWhy Orion ?
Yoshi is fantastic at separating, killing, and gimping the Ice Climbers. He has great spacing tools against them, doesn't really get camped that much, and is good at running away from them, too. He also has Egg Lay, which is his #1 important tool in this match-up (this is probably the match-up where Egg Lay is most vital).Why is Yoshi good vs ICs? Is it hard for ICs to grab/CG Yoshi?
It's a bad match-up, but Wolf doesn't **** Yoshi as much as you would think. He's not Lucario, you know.I'm being pretty serious.
Wolf vs Yoshi is pretty much vs
8:2 bro. Flowchart wolf keeps yoshi out. I literally use 4 moves to beat any Yoshi I've played, including Deltagod and Pride back in the day.Yoshi is fantastic at separating, killing, and gimping the Ice Climbers. He has great spacing tools against them, doesn't really get camped that much, and is good at running away from them, too. He also has Egg Lay, which is his #1 important tool in this match-up (this is probably the match-up where Egg Lay is most vital).
It's a bad match-up, but Wolf doesn't **** Yoshi as much as you would think. He's not Lucario, you know.
Anyways, Wolf has a lot of things going for him in this match-up. He has great aerial mobility, a fantastic b-air, a good reflector, and nice shield pressure. He also doesn't get chain-grabbed, either. Despite all of this, though, he's not the best at dealing with Yoshi's own pressure and tends to take on a lot of damage at a time. He also has a bad recovery that Yoshi can take advantage of.
It was actually argued that Wolf as only a 0 or -1 match-up for Yoshi, but I managed to get everyone to agree to a -2.
ikr? So much hate yet Peach has been getting loads more of attention and better matchups...Overall, I'm pretty happy with Peach's results. Hopefully the recent Peach hate will stop now lol
Wrong amigo.Why is Peach vs Samus in Peach's favor?
No Peach back there has sufficient Samus matchup experience.
Most of sheida's MUs didn't make sense to me either :/
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wat
not much if at all. she still goes absolutely nowhere at significant tournies :/ikr? So much hate yet Peach has been getting loads more of attention and better matchups, I have a feeling she'll be top tier some day... some day.
But she'll most likely move up for the next tier list for once.
Yeah. *sniffle*not much if at all. she still goes absolutely nowhere at significant tournies :/
Same.Most of sheida's MUs didn't make sense to me either :/
I really want to see the reasoning behind this.
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Well, considering that PRiDE stopped playing a long time ago and Deltagod is some player I've never heard of (), maybe those techniques worked well in the past but won't be as effective now. A lot of things change over time. For example, Yoshi vs. Samus used to be listed as 35:65 in Samus' favor (which I wholeheartedly disagreed with, by the way), but now it's listed as a even match-up.8:2 bro. Flowchart wolf keeps yoshi out. I literally use 4 moves to beat any Yoshi I've played, including Deltagod and Pride back in the day.
I played pride in 08/09 and Delta in '10. Same crap worked on both of them.Well, considering that PRiDE stopped playing a long time ago and Deltagod is some player I've never heard of (), maybe those techniques worked well in the past but won't be as effective now. A lot of things change over time. For example, Yoshi vs. Samus used to be listed as 35:65 in Samus' favor (which I wholeheartedly disagreed with, by the way), but now it's listed as a even match-up.