TheRockSays
Smash Journeyman
^i agree with you but R.O.B weakness is platforms.
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You are oficially banned from the ZSS boards.Power Whip
makes me wonder what she'd look like in a Zoot Suit...This is obviously the ZSS forums, not the ZZS forums.
This. M2K is not the end all source of information on everything.I don't expect side B to hit I expect it to pressure. And what is that about M2K did he comment on this match up? Even if he did, I doubt he knows it well.
what she said.This. M2K is not the end all source of information on everything.
Fair enough. Though I think the only thing you really could have done differently was been more intelligent with the suit pieces and been a bit more aware of timing and spacing of ZSS's moves. Might have helped you with recovering, and definitely would have helped in the outset on Brinstar, but you could have had me fooled with how you dealt with my approach, which is the only time when ROB can hope to win the fight.editz: in case I wasn't clear, my point was that your strat might go differently against a ROB who knows the matchup, so keep that in mind...that's all ^_^
Wow, stop talking about the East Coast. M2K is just the best. He doesn't dominate. And just because he's the best doesn't mean he's all knowing.Not according to M2K who dominates your region you guys dont lol.
This. If someone can PS Plasma Whip, fine. I have a contingency plan for that. You're drastically oversimplifying ZSS's pressure game. Toasty put it best: patience. If you're patient with ROB, he can do nothing. ZSS has range on him, she manages his projectiles well, and she's built to mete out heavy punishment. ROB is simply more likely to be worn down than ZSS.I don't expect side B to hit I expect it to pressure.
You can FLIPSTOOL the tornado?? That's unbelievable! Thank you sir for this valuable peice of information.Against the whorenado:
Dair, d-smash, and the tip of side-B, all will hit MK out of it. You can also flipstool to avoid it entirely.
You can grab him out of it too, but I don't advise doing that.
ZZS has already been banned from this forum.I dont know either. Maybe its like a new AT. ZOMG WE CAN BEAT MK CAUSE THERES A ULTRA-BROKEN NEW TECHNIQUE CALLED FLIPSTOOL.
theyre gonna ban ZSS now cause of it. I heard it has the most priority in the game, does 32% damage AND has Snakes F-Smash power and it comes out as quick as her jab.
oh noes ZZS is gonna be banned =/
By me of courseZZS has already been banned from this forum.
wait, so you have to be patient with large amounts of aggression? I don't understand the gameplan that everyone is suggesting here. You apply lots of pressure, but you have to be patient with your aggression?If you're patient with ROB, he can do nothing.
Aggression =/= offensiveness. Aggression means keep your ranged pressure up constantly and don't let up. Jab and tilt if he gets too close. Even when you're retreating, use pivot Plasma Whips and retreating paralyzers to make sure he doesn't have time to think about projectiles.wait, so you have to be patient with large amounts of aggression? I don't understand the gameplan that everyone is suggesting here. You apply lots of pressure, but you have to be patient with your aggression?
oh, mah bad. I guess I play like that all the time. Constant pressure with spacing tools is the name of the game for me with ZSS, lol. I don't really see another way to play ZSS that isn't "aggressive". So when I hear aggressive, I assume it meant even more aggressive, like forcing aerial approaches and dash attacks, etc.This is what I've always mean by aggressive, and it's what I'll always mean. Keep it in mind.
Sounds like some good old fashioned johns to me...I played Raffi-X on AiB ladder on wifi a few days ago, (he's ranked in top 30 or something) and after beating him he said that ZSS was Rob's biggest counter.
umm yeaa.We should settle the more commonly used characters first. I say Metaknight.
Btw, I take back my standpoint on the Snake match up. I think it's at least even for ZSS now.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197763idk if its just me or im playing a noob snake but when i grab and hit him(A) and dont throw him anywhere i almost always do a effective jab combo afterwards.
idk how you call that.