Project M Social Thread Gold

[PootisKonga]

The only problems I've had with SSE are when the camera becomes fixed for boss battles and enemy "gauntlets," often it gets fixed in a way that I can't see the edges of the field and as a result it's hard to recover when I'm knocked off.

Also, Squirtle can't seem to use Bubble...?

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Was C-stick ledge dropping in Melee? I can't imagine doing this with the control stick alone.

... Really? I do it with the control stick ledgedrop + tap jump DJ + C-stick Uair + control stick drift to regrab.

I guess I'm weird like that.

 

[Dairantō Smash Brothers]

Is it just me, or does the CPU occasionally do dashdancing? (albeit not very effecive...)

 

[shairn]

It'd be nice to be able to see IASA frames in debug mode. Right now you kind of have to fish for frame data while playing.

 

[Saxophoneoftime]

I think C-Stick on the ledge always does a get-up attack IIRC, at least in Melee.

 

[Chesstiger2612]

God damn I love 3.5

I feel sorta bad, because all the players around my level in az had their characters nerfed except ganon and lucario players

And I'm sitting here with a big net buff for wolf, negligible changes for fox, and a much more interesting diddy with a much stronger punish game. Even my other characters I mess around with, Rob, Gnw, peach and falcon, all got pretty exclusively buffed. 3.5 is a great patch for me lol

Lol you have jackpot characters, Wolf gonna be #1 in 3.5

 

[Dairantō Smash Brothers]

Oh yeah guys, I saw Balloon Fighter in the background of the Summit.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

You know, why Sartron has no problem adding Auto L-Cancel to PM Builds but won't just share out the code so people can do it themselves immediately and not wait ages for him to do it is beyond my understanding.

I'd really love to have an Auto L-Cancel build right now for when I play with my friends. That, or for when I'm just feeling tired or lazy. lol

 

[hotdogturtle]

I have the day off today (good because I worked late yesterday), so... BRSTM day?!

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

@PMS | Meiling was the **** pic worth the anger?

 

[~Dad~]

This thread moves too fast now. I'm too lazy to read five pages of comments every day.

 

[KayB]

Just found out you can ledge drop DJ uair regrab with Marth.
Debug mode is so cool.

Ledge drop = platform drop

 

[shairn]

Ledge drop = platform drop

What do you mean?

 

[SpiderMad]

@ SpiderMad What's the list for early double aerials as Marth?


Debate is over L cancel stays long live muhlay

In a SH-
Ones that can only L-cancel: Dair
Ones that can auto cancel only: Uair, Nair

Ones that can do actions after: Fair, Bair
[ It goes without saying that 1 frame of actionable'ness allows them to be Wavelanded out of, DJ'ed out of, and AGT'd out of]

Fair -> Every aerial [And Special attacks like Side-b]

Bair -> Fair, Uair, Dair [And Special attacks like Side-b]

In Melee all Bair can do in a SH is DJ, not even WL because you can't AD through IASA in Melee. PM has some kind of global height increase than Melee, that allows various Melee characters to do actions they can't in Melee [Fox's SH Bair AC, Falco's SH Uair AC, Jiggly SH Bair Nair etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=56 Covers them all but WL/AGT/Specials

Instances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=90 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=54 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIS-HdUgw Bair Fair/Uair/Side-b (missing Dair?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9EllNfEZ-8#t=867 Bair Uair

Extra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGHCzl_RMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl5Sfu-v1nU

 

[Chesstiger2612]

@ SpiderMad Did you find any new mechanic or something? I had a great time figuring out the little details in that conversation back in 3.02

 

[Soft Serve]

Lol you have jackpot characters, Wolf gonna be #1 in 3.5

right? Like last week I made a post in the tier list thread saying wolf will never be as good as other spacies because he relies on setups and can't force his way in

Bam, wolf now has a blaster that forces his way in

My prediction for top tier in no particular order: Wolf, Mewtwo (He's still super godlike guys, I love him) fox, lucario, samus, then probably high tier marth/shiek and pit, plus diddy and others

 

[Chesstiger2612]

I disagree with Lucario but the other predictions look fine imo.

 

[shairn]

Looking around the new stages for easter eggs is fun.

Spoiler

In Metal Cavern, there's a sign that reads "To read a sign, stand in front of it and press B. Like you did just now." In Summit, there's a polar bear sunbathing under the stage on the water. Deeper in the water, there's a misplaced texture/model of what I assume to be a piece of iceberg. There's also Tingle in Hyrule Castle and the Dedede icon under Dreamland, of course.

 

[arcticfox8]

Someone asked me to explain it on Reddit so I'll just post that here as well:

This is a combination of brawl/melee/PM techs. I do a handoff to the AI and immediately jump knowing the AI will Uthrow since I'm in the middle of the stage. I spike boswer and miss my L-cancel on purpose so that during my landing lag I can input a dair for the AI who is jumping back up to me. Similar to brawl the AI will latch onto me at a certain range and sort of float in the air. I use dair as it has the most active frames of their moves to force bowser into using his get-up animation to use invincibility to try and dodge the dair. While I do this I run off the platform and dair making sure not to fast fall. The AI's dair combos into my dair and I only L-cancel my dair so that the AI starts their downsmash at the same time I do resulting in a kill.

Hylian
Don't take this the wrong way but
I think I love you

 

[KayB]

What do you mean?

Oh I meant to type ledge drop = platform drop?

 

[shairn]

Oh I meant to type ledge drop = platform drop?

Uh, I meant dropping from the ledge AKA ledge hop.

 

[KayB]

Uh, I meant dropping from the ledge AKA ledge hop.

oohh. :/

 

[Saxophoneoftime]

The more I play Wolf, the more I really like him. The more I play Lucas, I rekindle the flames of what we had in 3.02, but I don't know if what I feel is true.

I'm in a love triangle here.

 

[Vashimus]

How the heck you even get debug working? Doesn't seem to really do anything for me besides lock the camera.

 

[standardtoaster]

I honestly do not understand why some people are really struggling with debug inputs. Only thing not in the instruction picture is that when Debug is on, Pause input is now X+dpad up. Live and die by this pic:

 

[shairn]

It should be added that start freezes, and Z advances one frame.

 

[Vashimus]

I honestly do not understand why some people are really struggling with debug inputs. Only thing not in the instruction picture is that when Debug is on, Pause input is now X+dpad up. Live and die by this pic:

I literally have that pic right on my desktop. I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't know the inputs, toast.

Might just be my controller, but urg

EDIT: Reset the controller and it works, heh

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Sleep is for the normal people.

which is something people here dont get, i guess that means

...
...
we're not normal. *gasps*

 

[shairn]

Nobody normal would spend so much time getting as good as possible at a game for no real reward

 

[Empyrean]

that monay tho
that fame tho
them thrash talk privileges tho

 

[shairn]

that monay tho
that fame tho
them thrash talk privileges tho

Only a handful get those though

 

[Smooth Criminal]

;~; I don't wanna resort to an HD setup to get my 3.5 fix, but dammit I might.

Smooth Criminal

 

[hotdogturtle]

Was Distant Planet shrunken again, or is it just the new model making it look smaller?

Because I like it now. It finally feels reasonably-enough sized to be a real stage.

 

[Empyrean]

Only a handful get those though

But that's what a lot of peeps strive for. Same with anything irl. Only a handful gets to be the 1% while the rest rot in admiration and desperate hope.

 

[shairn]

Was Distant Planet shrunken again, or is it just the new model making it look smaller?

Because I like it now. It finally feels reasonably-enough sized to be a real stage.

IIRC it's only an aesthetic change.

 

[Ogopogo]

Has anyone noticed the AI has improved phenomenally? Turn on a level nine Falco, Fox, or Wolf. These guys are all over the place

I realize this post was many pages ago but a level 7 Falco did shine -> shine -> bair on me, as fast as inhumanly possible. I was astounded.

 

[Player -0]

The walls were changed a bit to be curved.

Too much reading for this thread, cannot do.

Also driving is scary, true story.

 

[iLink]

Welp I think I'm boned

Spent the better part of yesterday trying to get 3.5 to work. I have to run the game through configurable usbloader because my wii can't read disks anymore. The day before 3.5, I was able to run 3.02 just fine with no issues. Replaced everything with 3.5 and now the in-game music cuts off after a few seconds and then the game completely freezes after 1 match is played. I tried the exact same SD card on a wii that uses a disk and everything works fine. Tried all hook types on the usbloader and none of them seemed to make a difference. If it matters, my game on the usb has most of the single player content cut in order to fit on my 8gb flash drive, although 3.02 worked fine.

Not sure what else I could possibly try

 

[Dairantō Smash Brothers]

I honestly do not understand why some people are really struggling with debug inputs. Only thing not in the instruction picture is that when Debug is on, Pause input is now X+dpad up. Live and die by this pic:

How do you turn on debug with a Wii Remote and Nunchuck tho?

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Just to ask real quick since I didn't see anything on the site, are there any major differences between 3.02 Battlefield and 3.5 Battlefield? Do I need to update any custom versions from the last one?