I would put Pikachu below Samus, as Samus has a much better recovery imo, cause of her bomb jump and she has her grapple beam + she can wall jump. I think if Pikachu is in Hightier (i agree with that) he would be below Samus. Peach I think should be lower then samus (as she already is thakfully) as she can be screwed when meteored/spiked. Samus still has her grapple/wall jump then. Pikachu I think has a better recovery then Peach, cause it is so fast an he can come back from under FD/BF etc. Still Samus can do that to (only not that fast). I dunno I think Samus and Pikachu are almost equal. I only would Put Samus above Pikachu cause she is so sexy
I think that Pichu deserves to be (for once *baby eyes* ) a upper tier, as she/he is almost the same as Pikachu only a tad slower and a tad less reach, However he/she can Wall jump what could come in handy as a mindgame something.
Link should be above Fox as he has so many ways to come back that is impossible to tell
no really only when he plays on a stage with no walls near the edge, like BF, he is a bit screwed, cause his hookshot is so freakin good and he can't really use it there
(but that would be called; stage counter picks)
Fox only has his shine jump thing fore extra height and Fox Illusion to be fast and Fox fire to come from (diognally) down. Link has his Hookshot, his bombjump, his up B and he can sweet spot so freakin good + his up b is hard to edgeguard as it has a really great range. I think only Marth with his long sword and Ganondorf with his Uair can edgeguard his Up b. Fax However can be caped fairly easily (I think) and with some good placed bairs he can't penetrate the defence
Well My opinions are:
Link above Fox
Pichu (down) uppertier
Samus above Pikachu
(Samus Aran
)
I would put Pikachu below Samus, as Samus has a much better recovery imo, cause of her bomb jump and she has her grapple beam + she can wall jump. I think if Pikachu is in Hightier (i agree with that) he would be below Samus. Peach I think should be lower then samus (as she already is thakfully) as she can be screwed when meteored/spiked. Samus still has her grapple/wall jump then. Pikachu I think has a better recovery then Peach, cause it is so fast an he can come back from under FD/BF etc. Still Samus can do that to (only not that fast). I dunno I think Samus and Pikachu are almost equal. I only would Put Samus above Pikachu cause she is so sexy
I think that Pichu deserves to be (for once *baby eyes* ) a upper tier, as she/he is almost the same as Pikachu only a tad slower and a tad less reach, However he/she can Wall jump what could come in handy as a mindgame something.
Link should be above Fox as he has so many ways to come back that is impossible to tell
no really only when he plays on a stage with no walls near the edge, like BF, he is a bit screwed, cause his hookshot is so freakin good and he can't really use it there
(but that would be called; stage counter picks)
Fox only has his shine jump thing fore extra height and Fox Illusion to be fast and Fox fire to come from (diognally) down. Link has his Hookshot, his bombjump, his up B and he can sweet spot so freakin good + his up b is hard to edgeguard as it has a really great range. I think only Marth with his long sword and Ganondorf with his Uair can edgeguard his Up b. Fax However can be caped fairly easily (I think) and with some good placed bairs he can't penetrate the defence
Well My opinions are:
Link above Fox
Pichu (down) uppertier
Samus above Pikachu
(Samus Aran
)
Totoro_Cless said:
What makes this list so tough to be precise is that some chars deserve their positions due to the distance and others due to "tricks", as had been said.
The second is even harder to state cause it all depends on edgeguarding. Disconsidering it, Zelda would be much higher.I just don't see much advantage on Mew2's recovery when compared to Zelda's.^^'
And what you've said about Yoshi's returning skills, B-Will, I agree it's most likely that a good mind-gamed Yoshi will make it back on the stage, that's why I think he should be higher on the list, he has both:Distance and the trick, if only he'd go a little bit higher with that^^'
yup it makes it tough yet intruiging
I really disagree about Zelda. It is just to hard to sweetpot with her. Her double jump is **** (that is why if I ever change into Zelda I double Jump first with Sheik)
and Mewto's Double Jump is crazy + he has a Up b move with invisibilitty screens and it goes pretty far + it is easy to handle so easy to sweetspot. Zelda should be low tier as she has a great range (still **** up double jump) and she is hard to edge guard when sweetspotted as she has her invisibillity frames. We are going to discuss where she should be in low tier untill the upper 15 (maybe 14 if Marth's going) are done so I am gonna shut up now (for about 10 minutes
)