Napilopez
Smash Lord
Ahh, I do understand what you mean by using bair twice or prediction, but then again, I rarely try to take on MK flat out in the air. I usually short hop a single aerials, and try to get back on the ground as soon as possible. Gshuttle loop isnt as powerful if you aren't hitting at the beginning of the move though.
As for it killing, its still not a big deal IMO. No different from being killed by a Dsmash.
Have you actively tried it yourself though? I do it enough so that MKs almost never try to plank agaisnt me, because its just not really worth it. If you drop the spring immediately after running over the edge, or shorthopping, theres no way MK will be able to react quickly enough. And if he times himself, you can "countertime" by releasing the spring later. He shouldn't be able to jump away in time because of his slow airspeed. Lol, my friend planks against me all the time, and it only works on PS1. It might take a couple of tries, but its not as if you were seriously vulnerable when trying to spring bomb anyways. The point is sonic can stop it better than many characters, and he can deal with it enough so that its not worth it.
Lol definitely, I just meant that as an addendum really. Not that you should actively try to do it, but you should be aware of it. Its not as if you'll get the chance most of the time anyways, as MKs will be regrabbing the ledge in order to maintain the invincibility frames.
Idk. I don't get gimped except when I'm trying to gimp MK myself lol. And the MKs I face gimp my other characters extremely easily. Uair beats MKs Dair if you are coming from below remember, and most of the time I'm able to position myself so I'm recovering using either invincy frames, or safe via Uair usage. Even though MKs Dair is quicker, the point is that you are Uairing in a position where you are totally safe anyways.
How exactly would MK punish spring usage? If he shuttle loops pregularly, then he will be too slow to get back on the stage. If he uses reverse shuttle loop, you should still have enough time to get back on stage before he can punish you.
And how does it help MK to drop down? Remember that springing moves you upwards as well. He won't be in shuttle loop range if he's moving down and you are moving up so quickly. And MK is really slow to rise vertically.
As for it being prediction or reaction, it really doens't matter. Point is that it works. If I'm close to MK, above him, even if he hasn't used shuttle loop, then I use spring. Whats MK going to do? If he tries to shuttle loop, he'll be outprioritized by spring. If he airdodges, then it gives me more time to get back on stage. If he does nothing, then he gets hit, and I have more time to get back on stage.
If I'm in shuttle loop range, but not so close to MK, then I will have enough time to spring on reaction. Even if its prediction, its much of the same as above.
Its just not worth it for MK, most of the time. He's much better off remaining on stage, and trying to punish your landing, which is hard enough to do, or racking up a tiny bit of damage.
I gimp MK as often as he gimps me, lol. Not that I am the epitome of Sonics, but I'm speaking of practical issues.
Lolol, that would probably totally work against me. I'd still be safe recovering though.
This is true. Still not that effective against Sonic though, Imo.
True, I know, but I would like to organize it myself too.
I would like to face you KID irl one day. It seems our disagreements about MK vs Sonic are mostly about what we think works and what we think doesn't. I do speak now purely from experience though. You're going to Mass Madness right? Imma try to go...
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