Success/Popularity stuff. Final update coming later today!

[John12346]

The following statements are true:

- MK, as a character, wins between 39.97% and 51.17% of all tournament money.
- MK users, whether MK is their main or pocket character, win 51.17% of tournament money.

Yeah, graped.

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[John12346]

And suddenly, ultimate **** mode data. The gaps MK users have over the non-MK users are even greater than the gaps MK as a character had over the rest of the cast. Does not include tournies from this weekend yet.

Note how, in the non cumulative user chart(the last one), MK never drops below 40% and also rises above 60% at times.

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[Ripple]

you may want to put collapse tags around those. btw 1 january tournament hasn't been counted, reflex got back to me and I didn't notice.

reflex has helped me in like 3 tournaments so far. thanks flex

 

[John12346]

Collapse tags spammed everywhere. Page isn't ***** anymore.

Anyway, I'll take the missed tourney into account and attempt to add it into its designated week.

But for now, perhaps we should talk about how horridly messed up this data is? I'm noticing one character with a now alarmingly significant percentage of winnings over the rest...

 

[san.]

I always suspected the MK users part would be that high, but I guess I am surprised there are no other top tiers even close to the middle section inside the gap. It's just a huge dropoff into mediocrity.

 

[Ripple]

I remember when it was close according to ankoku chart.

 

[Flayl]

Not really, MK was always close to 1.5x - 2x Snake's points.

 

[Deleted member]

Wolf makin' dat money.

 

[Ripple]

Not really, MK was always close to 1.5x - 2x Snake's points.

that was to be expected. but now it's 4x

 

[Reizilla]

300 =/= 4x100

 

[Ripple]

300 =/= 4x100

money, not popularity

 

[Reizilla]

Ankoku also measured through top 8. Usually only top 3/4 get money, as well as it not being very proportional to the system he was using, skewered more towards placing first, where MK obviously dominates.

 

[John12346]

Actually, quite a few big tournies didn't even list payouts, in which case I used the standard 48 - 22 - 14 - 8 - 4 - 4 split, which pays out dough to the top 6, which should cover enough players anyway. And regardless, most tournies that actually did list out their payouts(unless there was a low turnout, like 10 people or something) have payed to top 6-8.

And if MK is dominating first place, then of course he's going to have the highest numbers. That's just stating the obvious, isn't it? >.>;

 

[Reizilla]

Yes, but in comparison, the gaps in this system are naturally bigger than in Ankoku's.

 

[John12346]

Well, the guy in second place shouldn't be gaining as many points as the guy in first, that's natural. I'm not sure, but it sounds like your argument is saying, "MK shouldn't have such high numbers despite placing in the top spots." >___ >;

Also, like I said, a lot of the tournaments, AKA the big, important ones with enormous payouts, have paid to at least top 6. That should provide an even enough spread regardless.

If a there was a tournament of 10 people, it wouldn't make sense for top 8 to get points; it'd be far too low for almost all parties in that case. What's good about measuring payouts is that it changes in proportion to the size of the tournament, and provides enough fairness in the payouts to the players and to the fairness in the data I'm providing.

 

[Zankoku]

Ankoku also measured through top 8. Usually only top 3/4 get money, as well as it not being very proportional to the system he was using, skewered more towards placing first, where MK obviously dominates.

You mean skewed, right? Anyway, my points distribution was 10/7/4/4/1/1/1/1, which translates to 34.5/24.1/13.8/13.8/3.4/3.4/3.4/3.4 on a 100 point scale... I'd wager that weighting by actual money won is more skewed toward placing first than my system ever was, as many still run on 60/30/10 or worse yet, 70/20/10, and even in the aforementioned 48/22/14/8/4/4 distribution, first place is getting more than double that of second.

 

[Reizilla]

^what he said. I was probably hungry when I wrote that x)

 

[John12346]

I could just go ahead and add that to my chart, then, if you wanted me to.

 

[Reizilla]

Showing placings, particularly up to top 8, would give a better representation of "succes" in my opinion.

 

[Flayl]

No, money is definitely a better measure of success. You can't have a competitive regional and a 2$ local tournament on equal footing.

If you're not sure about the payout, the best thing to do is ask. Assumptions always come back to bite you in the ***.

 

[Reizilla]

Weighted by entrants, obviously >_<

 

[TheReflexWonder]

reflex has helped me in like 3 tournaments so far. thanks flex

:D

Weighted by entrants, obviously >_<

I should win at an anime convention and skew the results.

...

"Skewer" -definitely- sounds better. <3

 

[SN Viper]

Ripple you have not counted this tourney. I dont know if you skipped it for a reason but you did not add it in your data.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=296658&highlight=nub+academy

 

[Reizilla]

:D



I should win at an anime convention and skew the results.

...

"Skewer" -definitely- sounds better. <3

Do it. With Zelda

Or with MK so we can herpaderp ban 'im!

 

[Ripple]

I should probably update this

 

[John12346]

Seconded

EVERYONE THROW ENCOURAGEMENT AT RIPPLE

LIKE

REALLY HARD OR SOMETHING

 

[Blacknight99923]

marth mains step it up :o

 

[John12346]

Well, Iunno where Ripple is, but since the next week of tournies have passed, I just went ahead and updated my part with every tourney I could find that took place last weekend. If Ripple comes up with some more tournies for that week that I missed, I'm ready and able to update all of my sections at a moment's notice, so no worries.

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Tournies used so I don't forget:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297129
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297084
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297110
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297083
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297089
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297100
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297114
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297104
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297151
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297111
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297162

Tournies unused:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297072 – No characters listed

Update Commentary
- Meta-Knight breaks $6000.
- Diddy Kong finally breaks $1000!
- Marth has finally become viable!
- Pokemon Trainer and Sonic have also stepped up and become viable!
- Samus made money!?

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Meta-Knight users are STILL winning above 50% of the tourney money. What up?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

I like how Pokémon Trainer is more viable than Marth.

 

[John12346]

I like how Pokémon Trainer is more viable than Marth.

Reflex you're the only PT who's winning any money at all.

Instead of interpreting that PT users are winning 3.0779% of all tournament money, we can just go ahead and say Reflex is winning 3.0779% of all tournament money.

That, and you have singlehandedly made PT more viable than Marth.

too good

 

[DarkISDA]

MARTH! =) I'll make him win more money! lolz.

 

[Ripple]

I'm alive, I'll update it later today. I went to a tournament this weekend

 

[Fuujin]

I'm alive, I'll update it later today. I went to a tournament this weekend

o:<
where and why didnt I know about it?!??!

 

[Ripple]

UPDATED!





ok john,
updated to include 3 week 5 january tournaments.

Gamebox

HBCPGA which had different pay outs than 60/30/10 if you didn't catch it.

1st - $225
2nd - $112.50
3rd - $67.50
4th - ???
5th - $22.50
5th - $22.50

and nub academy

and for this february tournament, all I know is that pane ( the tournament winner, used wolf)

Play & trade 1v1 http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297072

 

[John12346]

Okay, update. I added tournaments to their designated months, so there you go.

Ripple, I also used this tourney: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297542
So you might want to add it to your data as well, k?

MK dropped by a considerable amount on this update; only winning ~20% of this week's tournament money, but he's still dominating like nuts.

Update Commentary
Snake breaks $2000!
Not much else of importance.

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[Kaffei]

Meta Knight is so cute!

 

[Ripple]

I don't count japan tournaments.

it has no affect on our metagame and they can't play for money.

so in essence, its a different game

 

[John12346]

loool ok

I'll fix that right away

 

[John12346]

Alright, not much changed, but here ya'll go.

Apologies about the double post.

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[King Funk]

I suppose European tournaments don't count?