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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
- Thread starter JOE!
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adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Ummm, we basically already discussed this with the zelda match-up.
Sheik has better clothes for running/jumping/moving in, and possibly when she changes herself, she gets slightly better conditioning.
But otherwise, it's the same core fight, Sheik has real weapons, Peach really doesn't. Peach loses by a massive margin.
Sheik has better clothes for running/jumping/moving in, and possibly when she changes herself, she gets slightly better conditioning.
But otherwise, it's the same core fight, Sheik has real weapons, Peach really doesn't. Peach loses by a massive margin.
Sieguest
Smash Master
lol no contest Shiek...
needle spam ftw....
needle spam ftw....
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I say Sonic Vs Luigi 
Sieguest
Smash Master
>.> Sonic is gimped...he can't do jack IRL due to his gay nerfs....I say Sonic Vs Luigi
Sonic should be dropped from TDB...>.>
so is peach she can't do crap, I say we give sheik a different opponent and have sonic vs. peach
loltastic
Sieguest
Smash Master
Peach would win because of Psych bombs and that random frying pan she's bound to be carrying...>.>so is peach she can't do crap, I say we give sheik a different opponent and have sonic vs. peach
loltastic
Sonic just sux....
The only characters worst than him are MK and Kirby, but Joe relinqushed them from our physics nerfs...
waitamoment- WHY CAN'T SONIC GET A BREAK EH?
*prepares flamefest post*
sonic doesn't have stubs for limbs like the kirby squad
EDIT: I sleep now
Sieguest
Smash Master
So...they still got a break and were allowed to break physics in order to make them fight worthy...sonic doesn't have stubs for limbs like the kirby squad
How come the same isn't done for Sonic?
Gamist that's all it is, JOE! hates Sonic because he comes from a Sonic game....Gamist
EDIT:Good Night
JOE!
Smash Hero
man, i rocked the genisis all day long back in the...day
its just, what could I give Mr Steak without making it silly?
(that and i had to get peach done...)
new match shortly
its just, what could I give Mr Steak without making it silly?
(that and i had to get peach done...)
new match shortly
Sieguest
Smash Master
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
Wow....did we just get through 3 fights in 1 day....?
JOE!
Smash Hero
thats what happens when round 1 features the more...competitive shall we say? matches
or we're getting too good at this
or we're getting too good at this
KrIsP!
Smash Champion
Zelda, she`s got class, and she`s part ninja.
'V'
Smash Lord
Definitely Zelda!! <3
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
...Reasoning?
ZSS can easily stun Zelda from afar and use her martial arts to dominate her.
She's also swifter and stronger.
ZSS wins this. Gg.
ZSS can easily stun Zelda from afar and use her martial arts to dominate her.
She's also swifter and stronger.
ZSS wins this. Gg.
JOE!
Smash Hero
well, Im assuming a stunner shot like her paralyzer wont have EPIK range...and probably will not last long enough if done from EPIK range...
day-day
Smash Ace
I think Zamus will win too as isn't she quite acrobatic and agile? I'm pretty sure that Zamus can get close and personal if she can't pull a shot off from afar.
JOE!
Smash Hero
you have the best avatar/sigs on this forums dude, ed edd n' eddy ftw
anywho, we should figure out how long the stun could last for, nd how fast it can travel...if it is bloackable..
AGuyNamedRaf
Smash Journeyman
How long does it last in "Zero Mission"? Would that be a good reference?
day-day
Smash Ace
Lol thanks, I make them myself on photoshop. Photoshop FTW :bigthumbu My Edism's will spread quicker then a scam by Eddy
Hm good question, only Metroid game I've ever played was Prime 1. I wonder if the stun from her gun would last as long as it does in brawl..
That's the big factor though, how long the stun last.
the stun didn't last a long time, but after like 10 charged shots (lol that's probably off) would kill a space pirate,
ZSS could keep hitting zelda with stun shots to keep her in place until ZSS gets in close and does some super-acrobatic-attack-thing and win this
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
The stun gun is unrealistic...
Shots of pure electricity aren't stable, it would just break apart. That's why pichu's thunderstock was limited to a melee attack.
It would need to be a solid projectile with either an independent energy generator that shocked you when it latches on OR a solid projectile with a line attached to the gun where the generator was located. Aka, like a modern taser.
Keep in mind, this is different from a laser.
Shots of pure electricity aren't stable, it would just break apart. That's why pichu's thunderstock was limited to a melee attack.
It would need to be a solid projectile with either an independent energy generator that shocked you when it latches on OR a solid projectile with a line attached to the gun where the generator was located. Aka, like a modern taser.
Keep in mind, this is different from a laser.
a taser is realistic
taser can be fired from a distance, not the longest but still a distance
look above
arguing with myself is tough EDIT: lol you said it I missed that, taser works effectively in this match anyway
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This will be a great, exciting and clopse match, but Zelda will win it.
ZSS all the way. She does all the overpowering from inside her powersuit.
Oh, wait, no powersuit?
Well, still... Zelda never does anything in any of her games except give Link light arrows, and get captured by Ganondorf and Zant. ZSS could run up to her and jab her anywhere, or run AND fire a taser at the same time, shock her and well, do whatever she desires to Zelda...?
She could also shock Zelda over and over until she dies.
Oh, wait, no powersuit?
Well, still... Zelda never does anything in any of her games except give Link light arrows, and get captured by Ganondorf and Zant. ZSS could run up to her and jab her anywhere, or run AND fire a taser at the same time, shock her and well, do whatever she desires to Zelda...?
She could also shock Zelda over and over until she dies.
Zelda has got dah sword. AND, Zelda is from LoZ. Instant win.
Zelda's sword is useless, the Taser has more range... and the taser kills
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Crystanium
Smash Hero
I'm going with Zero Suit Samus on this one. If "super athlete" isn't possible (actually, look up "super athlete" on Google), would it be fine to consider Samus at peak condition? Peak human would be above athletic, which is "super athlete" anyway, "super" meaning "above," but not superhuman. Batman is at peak human condition, but he's still human. And besides, it's not like it's magic or psychic abilities. Humans who are fit can put up with a lot more attacks and perform better. Samus has been taught to fight, both by the Chozo and by the Galactic Federation. Zelda wouldn't even be peak human, let alone athletic. She would simply be a normal human. I don't think she has any true fighting skills, either. We have seen her with a sword, but we have never seen her use it.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
The thing is, it's not a taser.
a taser is realistic
taser can be fired from a distance, not the longest but still a distance
look above
arguing with myself is tough EDIT: lol you said it I missed that, taser works effectively in this match anyway
Taser's work differently, they're a solid projectile that generally hooks onto the skin and delivers a shot, generally through a line that goes to the gun itself (but some have the charger in the projectile).
The rest are stun on contact.
Any type of taser that just fires the electricity and is ranged is unrealistic.
I haven't quite decided this match-up yet, I'll mull it over a bit more.
Just remember folks, Zelda has the arrows which are a significant advantage, and she's a skilled swordfighter/knifefighter too.
the actual MU is 60:40 Zamus, both character boards agree
EDIT: even then... me, dyrn is right Zamus has better maneuverability, is stronger and is faster, whether we changed Zamus' gun to a taser or not Zelda just has a sword, that we've never seen her use in battle
EDIT2: if you could arc it using a tesla coil it's totally possible, the only problem is scaling one
EDIT: even then... me, dyrn is right Zamus has better maneuverability, is stronger and is faster, whether we changed Zamus' gun to a taser or not Zelda just has a sword, that we've never seen her use in battle
EDIT2: if you could arc it using a tesla coil it's totally possible, the only problem is scaling one
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
We can't just change it to a taser, it's a scientifically impossible weapon, therefore it's out. Randomly changing weapons to the closest scientifically possible thing isn't Kosher.the actual MU is 60:40 Zamus, both character boards agree
EDIT: even then... me, dyrn is right Zamus has better maneuverability, is stronger and is faster, whether we changed Zamus' gun to a taser or not Zelda just has a sword, that we've never seen her use
Yea, in close range, the thing is, Zelda has a very significant advantage from long distance until zsamus hits hand to hand range (which Zelda can still defend with using the knife).
Basically, this comes down to the thousand tests, how often will Zelda kill Zsamus with the bow, how often will she kill her at max sword range, and is this enough to deal with Zsamus' killing advantage at extreme close range due to conditioning?
close range Zamus can knock zelda's sword out of her hand(s) same with the knife
the knife shouldn't be a problem either
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Yes, she can, once she gets inside.
close range Zamus can knock zelda's sword out of her hand(s) same with the knife
the knife shouldn't be a problem either
Though Zelda has considerable training to, so she's not gonna make it easy, and you gotta remember that knives are particularly hard to defend against when unarmed. From personal experience, from years of Kali, even defending against an untrained knife-fighter requires years of experience, and puts you at a significant tactical disadvantage.
So, he's the real question again, does Zsamus' close melee range kill ratio make up for Zelda's massive superiority at every other range.
I'm noticing that every match-up I participate in, I reference my martial arts background.
still waiting for DB's massive sig. whatever it is...
remember, Zamus is at her peak fitness, she has extremely good reaction time, is fast, and nimble
I can see Zamus winning the close combat fights since, if Zelda is going to have both(bow/sword) she'd need to switch weapons once Zamus gets though, Zamus can disarm her then.
I/you is/are good at this stuff...
Crystanium
Smash Hero
This is what would happen to Zelda.
Like I said before, Zelda has not displayed any skill with a sword. All she has been shown is holding a sword.
Like I said before, Zelda has not displayed any skill with a sword. All she has been shown is holding a sword.
JOE!
Smash Hero
what other weapons did she get in Zero mission?
also, her stunner could work, but only in melee...
also, her stunner could work, but only in melee...
Crystanium
Smash Hero
She had an auto-charged pistol, which stuns enemies. But, as the image above shows, Samus can take down people with weapons, and more than just one person at a time.
day-day
Smash Ace
Is Zelda even fast or have decent to fast reaction time? If she doesn't have either then Zamus will wreck her up close with athleticism she has.