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And are the odds in favor of ZSS being able to get by Zelda's sword?EDIT: Wut?
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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
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And are the odds in favor of ZSS being able to get by Zelda's sword?EDIT: Wut?
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Crystanium
Smash Hero
I doubt it. Samus is athletic, Zelda is not. Samus has had years of fighting experience. Even in the Super Metroid comic, it shows Samus at the age of three learning to fight with what would act as a sword. Samus is a fast fighter. And, as the picture above shows, Samus can take down more than one person at a time, even with the weapons in their hands.
this is why vvIts right here.
EDIT: Wut?
remember, Zamus is at her peak fitness, she has extremely good reaction time, is fast, and nimble
I can see Zamus winning the close combat fights since, if Zelda is going to have both(bow/sword) she'd need to switch weapons once Zamus gets though, Zamus can disarm her then.
Crystanium
Smash Hero
Look at Samus go!
day-day
Smash Ace
True..if Zelda had even half the reaction speed or overall quickness of Zamus, you'd think she'd be able to avoid capture by Ganondorf every time don't you think? lol
which manga was that from? I forgot...
I was going to say that, but I knew my alter ego would make a witty comment
Crystanium
Smash Hero
The Metroid manga.
They have these at Metroid Database, also. I think the translations are slightly different. For example, in one translation, it says that Samus was "transfected" with Chozo DNA. The other uses "integrated."
day-day
Smash Ace
Haha Ed would like to hear your witty comments Sam while we're discussing this.which manga was that from? I forgot...
I was going to say that, but I knew my alter ego would make a witty comment
Zelda's never used a sword or a knife, that's Sheik (unless you count the Phillip's games where Link could talk and have lipstick), which every person in the world disproves of and tries to forget). And if for purposes of this thread's debate they have Sheik and Zelda separated, then we should discuss Zelda's things, not Sheik's.
As for her paralyzer...
I guess the technology IS pretty unreal at this point in technology. But who's to say something won't arise in the near future? With so many studies in particle physics, it's only a matter of time before they figure out if leptons can be directed without the use of a conductor, or an anode/cathode method... Still, this topic is about realistic PRESENT technology, right (I hope not, Fox got to use his laser pistol)? After all,
anything is possible with the right procedures...
And as for Zelda's bow... She would have to look for the arrow, take it from the quiver, set it on the bow, pull, aim, adjust her pose and concentrate (which will leave her defenseless), and fire. Rinse and repeat... ZSS would just have to run at her at about 23mph (top speed recorded for human running, by Maurice Greene), leaving her with little time to get ready. Unless the fight started in opposing sides of a football field, ZSS would have no problem closing the gap. And even then, let's see what i can come up with...
Football field = 100 yards.
1 mile = 1,617y (yards).
23mph*1,617y = 37,191 yph (yards per hour).
37,191 yph/3600s (one hour) = 10.33 yps (yards per second).
100y/10.33yps = 9.68s
So, as we can see, it will take ZSS approximately 9.68s to cross the whole football field to reach Zelda with a random melee attack in a straight line, probably ending with either a tackle or a kick. It also gives Zelda less amount of time to shoot the arrow, since she'll have to aim and shoot, and when at close range it's difficult to aim and shoot since she might also want to move around to shake off her aim.
It's too difficult for Zelda to surpass ZSS.
As for her paralyzer...
If she can't use it for shooting purposes, then she at the very least could use it as a melee weapon
about half of
And as for Zelda's bow... She would have to look for the arrow, take it from the quiver, set it on the bow, pull, aim, adjust her pose and concentrate (which will leave her defenseless), and fire. Rinse and repeat... ZSS would just have to run at her at about 23mph (top speed recorded for human running, by Maurice Greene), leaving her with little time to get ready. Unless the fight started in opposing sides of a football field, ZSS would have no problem closing the gap. And even then, let's see what i can come up with...
Football field = 100 yards.
1 mile = 1,617y (yards).
23mph*1,617y = 37,191 yph (yards per hour).
37,191 yph/3600s (one hour) = 10.33 yps (yards per second).
100y/10.33yps = 9.68s
So, as we can see, it will take ZSS approximately 9.68s to cross the whole football field to reach Zelda with a random melee attack in a straight line, probably ending with either a tackle or a kick. It also gives Zelda less amount of time to shoot the arrow, since she'll have to aim and shoot, and when at close range it's difficult to aim and shoot since she might also want to move around to shake off her aim.
It's too difficult for Zelda to surpass ZSS.
JOE!
Smash Hero
Think ZSS would be at ease dodging an arrow?
i mean she's had to face energy projectiles which go faster I'd imagine
HEY LISTEN!
wheres that pic, sam?
i mean she's had to face energy projectiles which go faster I'd imagine
HEY LISTEN!
wheres that pic, sam?
you want a picture synopsis?Think ZSS would be at ease dodging an arrow?
i mean she's had to face energy projectiles which go faster I'd imagine
HEY LISTEN!
wheres that pic, sam?
I'll try
day-day
Smash Ace
I'm pretty sure a arrow is no problem for Zamus with some of the stuff she's seen. Zelda would be lucky to even get close to hitting her.
Another quick point... To not make it seem unfair, the fastest recorded arrow speed has been 330 fps.
330 fps (feet per second)
1 yard = 3 feet
330 fps/3f = 110 yps (yards per second)
The fastest speed recorded on an arrow has been 110 yps, so if no external factors like wind resistance, gravity and other forces were in the way, an arrow would be able to cross the distance of 1.1 football fields in each second. With the factors in the way, we can deduce a properly angled diagonally-aimed arrow can be shot 2,047 yards, but only while angled upwards diagonally. This means you're not even aiming to hit a moving target on the ground that can also hunch down while sprinting and make it even harder for you.
EDIT: I don't recall Zelda ever undergoing physical conditioning. Her reaction time, due to being isolated inside her kingdom's walls the vast majority of her life (or captured by Ganon), might not be beneficial to those kinds of necessary combat traits. And if you look at her arms in all of her games, as well as her composition, she has a skinny frame. And it is a given that skinny people are less resistant to blows, unlike fat people and physically-fit people who are the perfect weight. A single punch to the face would knock down Zelda forever.
And even if Zelda had her sword, she'd have to make a decision in order to use that, or her bow. She has shown to have NO swordsmanship skills at all, other than generating magic and bouncing it back to Link in TP and the minor, slow slashes she has in the Phillip's games... She literally would have to pick a weapon before the fight starts, she can't possibly fire an arrow fast enough, drop the bow, take out her sword and get in a comfortable fighter stance in time before ZSS is all over her.
She's like some crazy predator. I would fear her, unless I had a car or a tank or something.
330 fps (feet per second)
1 yard = 3 feet
330 fps/3f = 110 yps (yards per second)
The fastest speed recorded on an arrow has been 110 yps, so if no external factors like wind resistance, gravity and other forces were in the way, an arrow would be able to cross the distance of 1.1 football fields in each second. With the factors in the way, we can deduce a properly angled diagonally-aimed arrow can be shot 2,047 yards, but only while angled upwards diagonally. This means you're not even aiming to hit a moving target on the ground that can also hunch down while sprinting and make it even harder for you.
EDIT: I don't recall Zelda ever undergoing physical conditioning. Her reaction time, due to being isolated inside her kingdom's walls the vast majority of her life (or captured by Ganon), might not be beneficial to those kinds of necessary combat traits. And if you look at her arms in all of her games, as well as her composition, she has a skinny frame. And it is a given that skinny people are less resistant to blows, unlike fat people and physically-fit people who are the perfect weight. A single punch to the face would knock down Zelda forever.
And even if Zelda had her sword, she'd have to make a decision in order to use that, or her bow. She has shown to have NO swordsmanship skills at all, other than generating magic and bouncing it back to Link in TP and the minor, slow slashes she has in the Phillip's games... She literally would have to pick a weapon before the fight starts, she can't possibly fire an arrow fast enough, drop the bow, take out her sword and get in a comfortable fighter stance in time before ZSS is all over her.
She's like some crazy predator. I would fear her, unless I had a car or a tank or something.
day-day
Smash Ace
Kewkky's words of wisdom enchant Ed lol Did you enjoy physics Kewkky? just out of curiosity 
I still haven't gotten college-level physics, just minor classes...Kewkky's words of wisdom enchant Ed lol Did you enjoy physics Kewkky? just out of curiosity
day-day
Smash Ace
I been noticing that you like to incorporate (smart Ed moment lol) into these matches especially this one. Some of the stuff you said lost me cause I didn't pay attention in physics back in 11th grade.I still haven't gotten college-level physics, just minor classes...
day-day
Smash Ace
Hm that's tough Sam. The Zamus has it all but there's something about that Zelda that catches Ed's eye.. Hm Zamus is better for Ed.
Hm Zamus is better for Ed.
Roflmfao. I should've seen this coming, yet I didn't. What's wrong with me??
And well, people like to debate over who wins and why, and I like winning (of course, if I lose I'll just concede defeat), hehehe...
day-day
Smash Ace
It's odd though how there isn't much of an argument though. You'd think there would be a bunch of people here backing up how Zelda would win lol
tocador
Smash Lord
Zamus > Zelda.
Stun gun shut down sword approaches.
And zamus is like T3H 1337 F3GTH3R, whereas zelda has only the knowledge about fighting basics.
Stun gun shut down sword approaches.
And zamus is like T3H 1337 F3GTH3R, whereas zelda has only the knowledge about fighting basics.
Infinite Emerald
Smash Journeyman
JOE!
Smash Hero
Im back, and Sam, i menat the fanart for Mewtwo vs Samus
anywho, it seems Zamus is too good a fighter for Zelda to take on
New MU soon
anywho, it seems Zamus is too good a fighter for Zelda to take on
New MU soon
day-day
Smash Ace
Yay! New match soon! Jawbreakers to all who helped. All jawbreakers are from my good friend Jib! lol
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
The best I've seen Wario do is his jumps and charges.
Since his charges don't break through walls now and he has stubs for arms....
Lucario wins because he's the superior fighter....
Since his charges don't break through walls now and he has stubs for arms....
Lucario wins because he's the superior fighter....
JOE!
Smash Hero
Wario doesnt have stubs, hes still plenty strong and....burly lets just say
remember, lucario is much smaller
remember, lucario is much smaller
fixed
JOE!
Smash Hero
ok, according to Nintendo, mario is 5'1"
wario should be about 5'2"?
Lucario is 3' sumthin...
im gonna be off for a bit
wario should be about 5'2"?
Lucario is 3' sumthin...
im gonna be off for a bit
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
Thank you.
Can't believe I forgot Gg.
Can't believe I forgot Gg.
I would say wario just because of his size and strength. I mean, Diddy was argued the same way, but Wario actually has the mass and girth to fit.
I was really surprised
Lucario is just a harder target for wario to hit since Luc. is fast...
EDIT: @ DB but lucario is more skilled like ET said, it's like a black belt vs. a fat guy
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
Uh-huh.
Even if Wario is somehow heavier, Lucario can easily use his power against him. And considering Wario isn't the most combat hardened guy, he'd go down easily.
Even if Wario is somehow heavier, Lucario can easily use his power against him. And considering Wario isn't the most combat hardened guy, he'd go down easily.
day-day
Smash Ace
It's a kung fu Jackal! Of course it would win! lol
Seriously though Wario would get torn all to pieces unless he emits one of his deadly farts which will knock Lucario out
I still have my quarters on Lucario winning.
Seriously though Wario would get torn all to pieces unless he emits one of his deadly farts which will knock Lucario out
I still have my quarters on Lucario winning.
Yes, but this fat guy's not all flab, and he's much bigger than Luke.EDIT: @ DB but lucario is more skilled like ET said, it's like a black belt vs. a fat guy
I don't entirely see how.......
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
When you learn martial arts, you learn how to use your opponents power agianst them. Good examples are Judo and Boxing.
Lucario=Martial Arts master
Wario=Overweight mofo with no chance of winning
Gg.
Lucario=Martial Arts master
Wario=Overweight mofo with no chance of winning
Gg.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Zelda is gonna be the same, just less so.
Yes, but it takes very little time to switch if you just drop and pull, again, from experience.
That NEVER happens in a real fight.
No.
From here onward.
There's more then enough evidence to establish that Zelda is in fact, a skilled swordfighter.
NO!
Play windwaker, play TP.
In former, Zelda has a knife throughout the entire game (combat proficiency for it is a must due to her being a pirate captain).
In the latter, she displayed the sword, and dropped more then enough information to show that she was quite capable.
Read the link I posted above, I already went massively indepth on the issue.
Lasers are current, just gimped.
At a shot per second (which is rather slow) that's 9 good shots. Especially when you consider that she only has to half-draw for most of it.
And standard beginning was the max range of the furthest firing weapon.
Zelda's effective range is 1200 feet approximately, about 400 yards, about 4 times what you suggested.
Also, dead sprints directly at somebody are very easy to hit, you gotta at least double your estimates for evasion.
And then adjust it for the fact that you can't dead sprint it the entire time (365 meters is beyond what you can dead sprint on full tilt), so this takes it more towards the realm of 800 meter times.
So, if we take top 800 meter running, guy's record is 1:41.11, which is reasonable.
So, that's time for about 100 shots, or plenty of well-placed ones.
So, as we can see, it will take ZSS approximately 9.68s to cross the whole football field to reach Zelda with a random melee attack in a straight line, probably ending with either a tackle or a kick. It also gives Zelda less amount of time to shoot the arrow, since she'll have to aim and shoot, and when at close range it's difficult to aim and shoot since she might also want to move around to shake off her aim.
It's too difficult for Zelda to surpass ZSS.[/QUOTE]
The closer she gets, the easier to hit, plus, she gets to half-draw at close range, increasing her rate of fire.
Plenty, it's full of holes.what an epic post Kewkky, JOE that belongs as a synopsis,
unless my alter ego can think of something
Hey!
Not so fast!
payasofobia
Smash Champion
It's not that easy. Just ask a kung fu master that fought against a sumo fighter.
None of his attacks worked because the opponent was too big for his small attack area to work, the big dude's muscles and fat reduced the damage done to him and the sheer weight made the Kung fu dude bounce off him.
Of course, the difference betwwen wario and luke is perphaps not that big.
He still is pretty big though. And has lots muscles and is just a little overweight. He is far from being a slob.
Just look at his manly sexyness.
Edit: I hope this match-up does not get to the point where I will need to do what blue-kirby-man did to prove that ZSS would win.
None of his attacks worked because the opponent was too big for his small attack area to work, the big dude's muscles and fat reduced the damage done to him and the sheer weight made the Kung fu dude bounce off him.
Of course, the difference betwwen wario and luke is perphaps not that big.
He still is pretty big though. And has lots muscles and is just a little overweight. He is far from being a slob.
Just look at his manly sexyness.
Edit: I hope this match-up does not get to the point where I will need to do what blue-kirby-man did to prove that ZSS would win.