THE DREAMLAND INVASION: "Kirby Character Discussion Thread"

[Starphoenix]

Assuming everyone is still talking about Bandanna Dee, I think what N3ON is getting at is dead on. Even though it is a stretch to draw comparisons between the Waddle Dee in KRTDL and the others in previous games, a "protagonist" Waddle Dee has existed since Kirbs 64. HAL just decided to make him playable, and give him a spear and bandanna this time around.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm pretty sure that waddle dee may be from Kirby Superstar.

He could very well be the same bandana dee from Meta Knights ship.

Though his bandana may be a different color. I don't remember

 

[Deleted member]

There was no bandana Waddle Dee on Meta Knight's team. It was a sailor Waddle Dee.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Oh yeah, that's right. That makes sense

 

[SmasherMaster]

But Bandana Dee was in the minigame Megaton Punch in Kirby Super Star.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

But Bandana Dee was in the minigame Megaton Punch in Kirby Super Star.

...and? We were aware of that. We were talking about the Sailor Dee in Meta Knight's Revenge, which is a different character from Bandana Dee.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Sailor Dee was a true hero.

 

[jigglover]

Sailor Dee was a true hero.

As long as he didn't commit homocide over a strawberry, then he's a truer hero than Kirby!

 

[8-peacock-8]

He went down with the Halberd....twice....

 

[jigglover]

Is he alive or did he perish! *cries

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Is he alive or did he perish! *cries

Don't worry, he cameo'd alongside Bandana Dee in Mass Attack. Speaking of which, Sailor Dee could be a good alt. costume for Bandana Dee.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I would main Bandana Dee if I could be the Sailor Dee.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

As long as I could spearcoper, I would main Bandana Dee no matter what hat he was wearing.

 

[jigglover]

Don't worry, he cameo'd alongside Bandana Dee in Mass Attack. Speaking of which, Sailor Dee could be a good alt. costume for Bandana Dee.

Oh phew! Sailor dee shouldn't be an alt. costume! He should be playable instead of banana dee! Sailor dee is.. is a true hero! Banana dee is not!

 

[8-peacock-8]

Bandana murders his fellow Waddle Dees along side Kirby.

Sailor Dee for presi....er I mean SSB4

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Bandana murders his fellow Waddle Dees along side Kirby.

But they come back to life when they walk a certain distance away, so it's cool.

 

[jigglover]

But they come back to life when they walk a certain distance away, so it's cool.

No! One single waddle dee is irreplaceable! It is merely another waddle dee that takes the first waddle dee's place! He kills thousands of his own kind! Unlike sailor dee! Sailor dee for kin- smash 4!

 

[SmasherMaster]

No! One single waddle dee is irreplaceable! It is merely another waddle dee that takes the first waddle dee's place! He kills thousands of his own kind! Unlike sailor dee! Sailor dee for kin- smash 4!

Those aren't regular Waddle Dess, they are zombie Waddle Dees from the first Kirby game!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Those aren't regular Waddle Dess, they are zombie Waddle Dees from the first Kirby game!

For some reason I'm reminded of this. I could have sworn Waddle Dee was in it, but I guess not.

Also, I keep getting "502 Bad Gateway errors" on this site tonight.

 

[SmasherMaster]

But that's why video game minions keep coming back! THE BOSSES ARE TOO STUPID TO NOTICE THEIR MINIONS ARE UNDEAD!

 

[SmasherMaster]

Also, does anybody think that Blade Knight and Sword Knight would be a good Ice Climbers/ Meta Knight character?

 

[Dynamo68]

Knuckle Joe would be a logical choice for a Kirby newcomer. He's got lots of potential.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Knuckle Joe would be a logical choice for a Kirby newcomer. He's got lots of potential.

How so? IMO if Kirby did get a new character, it should be Bandana Dee, given his status as a recurring character, and his recent promotion to playable in RtDL.

 

[3Bismyname]

i think the Kirby franchise is perfect where it is. yes it is one of Nintendo's flagship series and certainly is deserving another character, but anyone they add at this point is really not that important and/or reacurring enough to really excite people.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

i think the Kirby franchise is perfect where it is. yes it is one of Nintendo's flagship series and certainly is deserving another character, but anyone they add at this point is really not that important and/or reacurring enough to really excite people.

Agreed. I think it's going to be a long time before we get a new Kirby rep.

 

[Dynamo68]

How so? IMO if Kirby did get a new character, it should be Bandana Dee, given his status as a recurring character, and his recent promotion to playable in RtDL.

well, KJ is the Fighter-Type character, and given his popularity as an Assist Trophy in Brawl, as well as an enemy in KRTDL, i say he's got a chance. Waddle Dee is already part of King Dedede's side-b move, much like how Toad is part of Peach's B-move.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

well, KJ is the Fighter-Type character, and given his popularity as an Assist Trophy in Brawl, as well as an enemy in KRTDL, i say he's got a chance. Waddle Dee is already part of King Dedede's side-b move, much like how Toad is part of Peach's B-move.

Ugh...this argument again. This argument has never held water to me- there are multiple Toads and Waddle Dees(including several not affiliated with Triple De), so who's to say there couldn't be a playable Waddle Dee/Toad in addition to the one that is part of Peachs'/DeDeDes' moveset?

Also, I'm pretty sure having a bandana and a spear would be more than enough to set Bandana Dee apart.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Waddle Dee is already part of King Dedede's side-b move, much like how Toad is part of Peach's B-move.

No.

Just No.

Bandana Dee is different from standard Waddle Dees. it's not hard to figure out.

The Toad in Peach's neutral special can be replaced with Toadsworth.

Also, there is no special Knuckle Joe, to my knowledge, in the games.

 

[SmasherMaster]

Kirby has a good shot of getting a character. Makes more sense than another Star Fox character.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Kirby has a good shot of getting a character. Makes more sense than another Star Fox character.

Hey now. Bashing on StarFox is my job.

 

[Dynamo68]

No.

Just No.

Bandana Dee is different from standard Waddle Dees. it's not hard to figure out.

The Toad in Peach's neutral special can be replaced with Toadsworth.

Also, there is no special Knuckle Joe, to my knowledge, in the games.

actually, yeah there is. the Vulcan Jab, Rising Break, Smash Punch, and Spin Kick.

Kirby has a good shot of getting a character. Makes more sense than another Star Fox character.

Which Kirby character are ya hopin' for?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

actually, yeah there is. the Vulcan Jab, Rising Break, Smash Punch, and Spin Kick.

He meant that there's no unique Knuckle Joe that's set apart from all the others. Like for Waddle Dees, there's the Sailor and Bandana Dees. Or for Yoshi, there's the Yoshi species, and then "the" Yoshi.

 

[SmasherMaster]

Hey now. Bashing on StarFox is my job.

Well, a series that only has 5 games getting a 4th character before the 4th biggest Nintendo franchise. Also, more likely than a new Mother rep.

 

[LosTimeTurner]

obviously bandada dee
because he is a protagonist and the other ones are just side characters

 

[Mirron]

Well now I feel a bit silly logging in, as I figured someone would mention him by now, but I'd really love to see Magolor. I know he's really only appeared in two games (and that's counting the 20th anniversary as a separate game, though it does give perhaps some indication on his future), but I think he'd be a nice playable rep if Kirby were to get one. My top five Kirby reps actually are...

1. Magolor, as I kind of said above, would be easily the top of my list. I love magic users, and I think Magolor would have a very unique and viable moveset. Obviously his odds aren't particularly good, since Bandana Dee makes more sense to include over him, and Kirby having five reps would be a bit much, even if I'd be happy. Still, I'll always support him most out of a potential Kirby rep.

2. Bandana Dee comes in at second. I really, really like Bandana Dee too. A spear user? Totally on board for that. And his inclusion would mean FE's weapon triangle is completed by Kirby first, which kind of amuses me (and if you include Magolor that's all of the major weapon groups pretty much, as Arrow is hard to pull off, though the 3rd on my list could count). His moveset is versatile and unique, would stand out from the rest of the cast, would represent a hopefully to be recurring figure in the series beyond the core three, etc.

3. Ribbon is the next on my list. I know, she's minor, a one-shot, etc. But I think she'd have a really fun moveset if playable, which is really part of why I want her. Plus a floaty ranged specialist (which is the impression I get from her) makes her really nice. I would love to see the Dreamland series represented a bit more, so seeing her in would be good as well. Though the fourth on the list could help with that too.

4. Dark Matter goes here. Not 0 or 02, but Dark Matter, namely in his swordsman form. I realize the possibility of redundancy, but I think Dark Matter could be an interesting and unique fighter, and Kirby's only recurring villain (at least consistent villain, DDD and MK switch too much to count). Final Smash being 0 or a bigger Dark Matter mass or some such seem good as well.

5. Here's where I can't decide. Honestly, I guess giving it to Knuckle Joe is somewhat fair, since he would at least clear Kirby's moveset of Fighter Kirby hopefully, and let him use different Copy abilities. But... really, barring the anime, KJ doesn't have anything unique on him. Closest he has is being the "main" helper in the Helper to Hero thing, and his Assist Trophy. But there aren't too many figures I could see. Galacta Knight, Marx, and Adeleine seem like the remaining contenders for the fifth spot, but I can't really rank any of them significantly higher than the other. I prefer Magolor to Marx, even if Marx came first and Magolor uses him as inspiration somewhat, Galacta Knight is cool but too similar to Meta Knight, and Adeleine as well as Ribbon might be a bit silly. Oh, Gooey could work, I could support him in the fifth slot. A bit of a one-shot, but reps Dreamland and Dark Matter, as well as being able to have a unique moveset.

 

[3Bismyname]

to me Bandana Dee has the best shot. and im even being generous. not that the series doesnt deserve 4 reps cause it does. but Kirby doesnt really have a large reaccuring cast to begin with. most characters, with the exception of Meta Knight and DDD, are either one shots (Prince Fluff and Ribbon), wouldnt translate very well into smash as anything more than a boss (Whispy Woods, Dyna Blade), or generic enemies (Knuckle Joe and Waddle Dees). Kirby kinda suffers from the same problems Zelda faces. we have the core characters already, anyone else is not nearly as important or prominent.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

The Kirby reps are fine with the current characters. Unless the series introduces a new core character in future titles, we won't be getting a new Kirby rep for quite some time now.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

The Kirby reps are fine with the current characters. Unless the series introduces a new core character in future titles, we won't be getting a new Kirby rep for quite some time now.

Pretty much. Though Bandana Dee would still be boss.

 

[volbound1700]

Prince Fluff has the most unique moveset of the group using all the new yarn moves. He would be the only character worth adding (or Yarn Kirby which seems like a more likely thing for Sakurai to do).

 

[FalKoopa]

Prince Fluff has the most unique moveset of the group using all the new yarn moves.

He's a one-shot char, unfortunately. I'm rooting for bandana dee. Then kirby series will have sword, spear, hammer(mallet), and bare-handed fighters.