Originally posted by x1372
jv3x3, that may be quite the most random and arbitrary ruleset I have EVER seen.
first, items on very low actually makes them more dangerous than on low. simple reason is that on very low there's not enough items to go around. You can get to a point where one person gets a good item (say, beamsword) that stays with them and gets an advantage, and the opponent has to wait for half a minute or more to get an item themselves to combat it. This can and does happen, I've seen it in friendlies, which is why most tournies either have items low or off.
Second, what's with that itme list? there is absolutely nothing wrong with star rods that isn't wrong with half the items on that list. the projectile is terrible and its really only good as a throwing weapon, and if you're trying to get rid of those dump freezie, motion sensor bomb, screw attack, lip's stick... and if the problem is the shooting thing we can't have ray gun and super scope... BOTH OF WHICH CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS THAN STAR ROD... basically you don't seem to have much rhyme or reason for a few items you're banning.
next on the random list is the stage selection. considering this is a no-items tourney, there really isn't much need for stages to be banned in the first place - I'd say four at maximum, temple great bay yoshi 64 and depths. However, your list consists of sacred seven, mute floats cruise, kongo jungle, brinstar, and mushroom kingdom 2. now, mushroom kingdom 2 is one of the most abuseable levels out there, in many cases worse than onett because your opponent has to come UP to your level to get to you. second, kongo jungle with its rock problem can have a serious impact, and brinstar is annoying and random that most people turn it off in no items... basically, your list takes out FAR more levels than necessary, time limit or not. Believe me, I can still abuse the timer and drag matches out for my advantage. Never mind that you've all but REMOVED slob picks, making it worthless by removing any level that most people would pick.
...And that leads me to my next point: no time limit? you MUST be crazy. Right, like even with that stage selection people aren't going to camp their asses off... never mind that you've all but begged for it to happen with jungle and mk2... and people might not be willing to attack anyway, and if both are like that, eternal stalemate. there IS a reason why nearly every tourney uses a time limit, and that's not even just to make sure the matches end in a decent amount of time.
also, just FYI, stage control is a very important factor in an items match. so people are going to "abuse stage position" whether you like it or not, and stage position is important. your removal of any level with walls from an itme match dumbs down the game a rediculous amount.
well um, have fun with this, and expect a pretty good amount of item and stage abuse, especially from ME if I make it to this thing. I want my money, I NEVER wanna rush my opponent, and with this ruleset I never ever have to. If he doesn't want to come to me, too bad, I've got infinite patience.
Alright one at a time.... Very low is much less prevalient with no time limit, and the spawn rate is still high enough. Couple that with almost all (if not all) game breaking items turned off and you are good.
Random, check the OC, very similar dont you think?
Time limit creates false wins.
Stages, jungle with the rock is most certainly off. I must have simply missed that, cause i consider it to be one of the most broken stages out there. Very sorry. MK 2 will be off too, although i didnt consider it, for you can control to much area and get items, you seem to think it is big. So it is off.
If you are that confident play me for a chunk of change...How bout it?
Final rules, no revisions will be made.
-4 stock, Best of 3 (Semis and finals best of 5)
-Double Elimination
-Seeding for groups that came together (so you at least wont play your friends/crew early in the tourney)
-First stage random or agreed upon and double blind character picks can be requested
-Loser then picks either a new character (winner has to stay) and the stage pick goes back to random or agreed upon) or picks stage
-Items set on Very Low
-The following items will be turned off Hearts/Tomato/Starman/StarRod/Hammer/Mushrooms/Beamsword/HomerunBat/PartyBall/Bom-omb/Pokeballs
-Following stages are banned, not even allowed on counter pick.
Peachs Castle, Corneria, Onett, Great Bay, Mushroom Kingdom, MK II, Icicle Mountain, Jungle Japes, Green Greens, Temple, Brinstar Depths, Yoshis Island, Vemon, Big Blue, Fourside, FlatZone, Yoshis Island N64, Kongo Jungle
-Pause Off
-Team Attack ON
-Life Taking allowed (teams)
-IC glitch allowed, but you must kill if you can, and you freeze the game you lose the match.
P.S. Glad to hear from other people, ill see all you all at the tourney. Also, rules are fair as i can make them with items.
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