Queen B. Kyon
Smash Master
Knowing people here nope. People still complaining about WATO when I hear so much more complaints from other tourneys. Id like to go.AwwI miss you too Kyon <3
So everybody is coming to my tournament on the 8th right?
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The -NEW- Florida 2011 Brawl Power Rankings! Updated 5/10/11!
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I beat Polt. The results should count.
Also I think the results for Gallaxfest should count too. I've barely gone to any tourneys this period so I dont care if my loss to Hrnut as Falco is counted anyway.
To me it's really w/e. If I lived in SFL I'd probably care about the PR but since I dont my record against people on such a limited basis doesn't even really bother me. Good **** to everyone who beat me and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Afro and Masky beat me when I was sober anyway...
Also I think the results for Gallaxfest should count too. I've barely gone to any tourneys this period so I dont care if my loss to Hrnut as Falco is counted anyway.
To me it's really w/e. If I lived in SFL I'd probably care about the PR but since I dont my record against people on such a limited basis doesn't even really bother me. Good **** to everyone who beat me and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Afro and Masky beat me when I was sober anyway...
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
<3
You know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Hype Incarnate
Mr H is MARIO
Smash Journeyman
what the **** like 3 people told me that i COULDNT go MK...holy **** i ****ing hate all of you.
Lol okay tommy i guess im arrogant because i don't think a tournament (where i did my best in like 3 months btw) with a ridiculous ruleset that was pretty much anti-mk shouldn't be counted. Like i said NOT INCLUDING ANY DRINKS obviously that was a choice we made
EDIT: Actually to the people that weren't even there, just shut the hell up about the rules in general because you have no ****in idea how me (and seibrik) got completely ****ed by the rules this tournament. I did read the rules, and somehow it still worked against me.
GDX
Smash Hero
for the record, i said that you can stay MK if they counterpick YOU there, but then i was told that is incorrect by multiple people. which is funny cause i was probably the only one there who was awake that had any kind of internet access (lol DC). but since multiple people said it, i just accepted it
that sucks, afro.
honestly, the tourney itself all around was just poorly executed by viper. Viper is a good kid dont get me wrong, but i think he was overwhelmed by the tourney itself. I'll take responsibility for the amount of time it took for singles to run, even though i was never originally planned to literally run the tourney, but i knew if i didn't it wouldn't have finished even when it did, but because i ended up running the entire singles tourney, including making pools (with the help of masky, lade, xdeth, dtorr) and making/running bracket that length of time is still my fault.
viper should take this tourney, see what he did wrong and collect it along with the criticism, sit on it for a few months, and wait awhile before hosting the next tourney. The next tourney should also keep in mind the plight/problems of this tourney when making the next one, to guarantee they dont happen again. As a TO, really all you can do is analyze your mistakes and make up for them the next time. Most mistakes in TOing are usually forgiven by the community on a "everybody gets one" type basis. Shining example would be Chibo and the transition between CoT4 and the upcoming CoT5
with that in mind though, the results should still count for any PR related wins. Players knew the ruleset and the terrible stages, but they still came. and because they still came, they were subject to have it count under less than ideal circumstances....this would be true under normal circumstances, but this is a special scenario. There was a clear misunderstanding of the rules between Polt and Afro. Polt only picked rainbow because he thought afro couldnt go MK on a transparent stage even if he was CPed there. Afro thought he could stay MK if he was CPed there. The ACTUAL TO OF THE TOURNEY was nowhere to be found to actually clarify it, so they played under incorrect rules/circumstances.
The sad part is that you cant really just outright say "polt vs afro shouldnt count" and fix it simply, because afro wasn't the only MK who's sets were effected by it. For example, I played xdeth and im pretty sure he would have picked a transparent stage of some sort, but he couldn't. All i had to do was ban frigate and he pretty much had to choose a neutral to get any advantage on my character. Sadly, the only thing you can do is count all of them for the PR and make sure nothing like this happens again in the future
that sucks, afro.
honestly, the tourney itself all around was just poorly executed by viper. Viper is a good kid dont get me wrong, but i think he was overwhelmed by the tourney itself. I'll take responsibility for the amount of time it took for singles to run, even though i was never originally planned to literally run the tourney, but i knew if i didn't it wouldn't have finished even when it did, but because i ended up running the entire singles tourney, including making pools (with the help of masky, lade, xdeth, dtorr) and making/running bracket that length of time is still my fault.
viper should take this tourney, see what he did wrong and collect it along with the criticism, sit on it for a few months, and wait awhile before hosting the next tourney. The next tourney should also keep in mind the plight/problems of this tourney when making the next one, to guarantee they dont happen again. As a TO, really all you can do is analyze your mistakes and make up for them the next time. Most mistakes in TOing are usually forgiven by the community on a "everybody gets one" type basis. Shining example would be Chibo and the transition between CoT4 and the upcoming CoT5
with that in mind though, the results should still count for any PR related wins. Players knew the ruleset and the terrible stages, but they still came. and because they still came, they were subject to have it count under less than ideal circumstances....this would be true under normal circumstances, but this is a special scenario. There was a clear misunderstanding of the rules between Polt and Afro. Polt only picked rainbow because he thought afro couldnt go MK on a transparent stage even if he was CPed there. Afro thought he could stay MK if he was CPed there. The ACTUAL TO OF THE TOURNEY was nowhere to be found to actually clarify it, so they played under incorrect rules/circumstances.
The sad part is that you cant really just outright say "polt vs afro shouldnt count" and fix it simply, because afro wasn't the only MK who's sets were effected by it. For example, I played xdeth and im pretty sure he would have picked a transparent stage of some sort, but he couldn't. All i had to do was ban frigate and he pretty much had to choose a neutral to get any advantage on my character. Sadly, the only thing you can do is count all of them for the PR and make sure nothing like this happens again in the future
Mr H is MARIO
Smash Journeyman
Whats ******** is i'm being talked down to like im the bad guy here, Tommy calling me arrogant even though he has no clue what happened at the tournament is pretty ****ing ******** and definitely uncalled for.
Anyone who was at the tournament knows what happened in GF of doubles when i asked Viper to look at the stagelist but he allowed Co/Hal to play on Castle Siege anyway even AFTER i paused the game and asked him to check to see if it was legal (and it wasn't). Then in singles GF multiple people tell me i can't go MK when i'm counterpicked to RC. Then it's claimed i should of read the rules i DID read the rules, i even asked in the rules if i could CP frigate (THAT WAS NEVER ANSWERED BTW LOLOLOL), and of course i find out i can't last minute because it has a transparent PLATFORM (the entire stage ISNT transparent).
But nah im arrogant, prolly shoulda read the rules **** you ******s too.
Anyone who was at the tournament knows what happened in GF of doubles when i asked Viper to look at the stagelist but he allowed Co/Hal to play on Castle Siege anyway even AFTER i paused the game and asked him to check to see if it was legal (and it wasn't). Then in singles GF multiple people tell me i can't go MK when i'm counterpicked to RC. Then it's claimed i should of read the rules i DID read the rules, i even asked in the rules if i could CP frigate (THAT WAS NEVER ANSWERED BTW LOLOLOL), and of course i find out i can't last minute because it has a transparent PLATFORM (the entire stage ISNT transparent).
But nah im arrogant, prolly shoulda read the rules **** you ******s too.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Why are you using 2 accounts?
Queen B. Kyon
Smash Master
^ something i'm doing
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Agreed. Would be the only reason I think it shouldn't count towards the PR.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Frigate was not on the list of stages that MK couldn't counterpick to. Afro has a legit gripe with him and Seibrik not being allowed to use that stage. Rules shouldn't be changed mid tournament.
Mr H is MARIO
Smash Journeyman
VIPER told me MID TOURNAMENT that i COULD NOT pick Frigate.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
What Viper did was wrong.
In the OP, Frigate was not on the Transparent Stage List, meaning you had every right to go on that stage.
Frigate was legal...and it was the only legal pro MK counterpick. Then Masky banned it against me and I forfeited
Anyway what really bothers me is how sometimes the rules were followed and sometimes the rules were ignored. There was a ****-ton of inconsistency.
For example Afro in your set against my brother, he CPd you to pictochat. Pictochat was not a legal stage, but after you won via timeout you didn't complain about this. Not calling you a hipocrite because I wasn't there and don't know if you guys agreed to the stage or w/e, I'm just saying there were multiple occurences of stage shenanigans. Me and CO used Delphino plaza against Masky and MVD. Nobody realized it wasn't legal (I was MK).
So yeah... the rules obviously need revision especially to avoid people getting screwed over like this...
Anyway what really bothers me is how sometimes the rules were followed and sometimes the rules were ignored. There was a ****-ton of inconsistency.
For example Afro in your set against my brother, he CPd you to pictochat. Pictochat was not a legal stage, but after you won via timeout you didn't complain about this. Not calling you a hipocrite because I wasn't there and don't know if you guys agreed to the stage or w/e, I'm just saying there were multiple occurences of stage shenanigans. Me and CO used Delphino plaza against Masky and MVD. Nobody realized it wasn't legal (I was MK).
So yeah... the rules obviously need revision especially to avoid people getting screwed over like this...
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
We should just use Pound's ruleset.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Viper has yet to reach the manly Falco stage like me. Where you just say "ok MK destroys me off stage but y'know what WE GUNNA FREE STYLE THIS!"
Mr H is MARIO
Smash Journeyman
Frigate was legal...and it was the only legal pro MK counterpick. Then Masky banned it against me and I forfeited
Anyway what really bothers me is how sometimes the rules were followed and sometimes the rules were ignored. There was a ****-ton of inconsistency.
For example Afro in your set against my brother, he CPd you to pictochat. Pictochat was not a legal stage, but after you won via timeout you didn't complain about this. Not calling you a hipocrite because I wasn't there and don't know if you guys agreed to the stage or w/e, I'm just saying there were multiple occurences of stage shenanigans. Me and CO used Delphino plaza against Masky and MVD. Nobody realized it wasn't legal (I was MK).
So yeah... the rules obviously need revision especially to avoid people getting screwed over like this...
I didn't even know PIctochat wasn't legal, after doubles i had NO IDEA what was legal and not legal.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Yo when we gunna host our own tourneys afro with legit ruleset?
Mr H is MARIO
Smash Journeyman
Whenever we find a decent venue.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Can we get a Diddy Kong?
AfroQT
Smash Master
Rofl what the **** is that your arguement? You didn't get LIED TO at NLL, you just got an unlucky bracket.
Oh you mean like what happened at Fuzed Brawl in Port St. Lucie?
AfroQT
Smash Master
Honestly that was awhile ago and i don't remember, but i remember that tournament being pretty negative.
But i don't understand your point. That tournament being bad has nothing to do with this tournament, at all. At best you can compare them, but that doesn't change what happened and how it was wrong.
Honestly whatever this tournament should count toward the PR, but the results definitely were skewed by the insane rules. Thats all im saying, and its something everyone else should definitely consider.
And viper i understand you have a personal vendetta against mk, but next time just ban mk at your tournament, it'd make much more sense, and you can avoid problems like these.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Viper? You mean...
D WHO?!
Poltergust
Smash Master
Afro, I just want to clear this up. If I counterpicked you to a transparent stage, you were only allowed to go Meta Knight if you were Meta Knight the previous round. That's why I chose Rainbow Cruise against you that set, because you were Snake the previous round.
Don't think badly of me, I was only using the rules to my advantage (as terrible as they were).
Don't think badly of me, I was only using the rules to my advantage (as terrible as they were).
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Polt doing what it takes to win
LEGIT
LEGIT
AfroQT
Smash Master
I don't understand, why would you think that i think badly of you?Afro, I just want to clear this up. If I counterpicked you to a transparent stage, you were only allowed to go Meta Knight if you were Meta Knight the previous round. That's why I chose Rainbow Cruise against you that set, because you were Snake the previous round.
Don't think badly of me, I was only using the rules to my advantage (as terrible as they were).
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Thats not what everyone else is saying Polt.Afro, I just want to clear this up. If I counterpicked you to a transparent stage, you were only allowed to go Meta Knight if you were Meta Knight the previous round. That's why I chose Rainbow Cruise against you that set, because you were Snake the previous round.
Don't think badly of me, I was only using the rules to my advantage (as terrible as they were).
bigman40
Smash Master
Polt, you should like, read the thread before saying stuff like that. You're nowhere close to being in the wrong. All you did was play to win. The problem is with the rules of the tourney and how unfair it was to players.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Legit post right here.
Poltergust
Smash Master
No, it's just that you were complaining about it, so...
bigman40
Smash Master
If he was complaining about you, you WOULD think he'd at least say something about you directly (or indirectly) right? Nothing was said about you so you have nothing to be stressed about. Derp.
GDX
Smash Hero
i made an edit to my post, so just quoting it so people dont miss it.
and yea polt no one is mad at you lol
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I'm mad at Polt.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Lets get that guy.
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[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
Polt just wants to be loved. I mean, look at that bellsprout he has his arms out for hugs.
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