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I think it should be:
![[FBC] ESAM](/data/avatars/l/92/92614.jpg?1365783210){kind=avatar}
I played ADHD at Apex a lot, Dabuz at LSC for a little while. LOL I UNDERSTAND man. =(
Saint, me, you, & Chthreethreesthree all have better ICs than DEHF, imo. (I may be forgetting someone else as well) Not that his are bad by any means.
1. Vinnie
2. FreEsam
3. lain
4. Smoom77
5. DEHF / Roller
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Roller, why do you hate me?
Your easy to hate I suppose
Dojo from what I've seen and from talking to him recently uses about 90% IC's in bracket. He's been placing in the money at the tournaments he's going to I have only seen videos of him against denti in the grand finals of the last tournament he was at however and he lost.
100$
What recent wins does Esam have with ICs that put him above me?
Since I've seen this like 20 times... for the record, you beat me in winners when I was playing like a *******. And then I took Lain out in losers directly after he took you out of losers. And you can't simply decide who's better because they did better vs. x player. I'm a lot more familiar with Lain's style of ICs, and your "stand there and do nothing" style really got to me. Lain's consistency on his CGs now is ****ty though, and his ICs have certainly fallen off. I still think the main thing keeping him off the list if he is off of it is inactivity.Saint, me, you, & Chthreethreesthree all have better ICs than DEHF, imo. (I may be forgetting someone else as well) Not that his are bad by any means.
Yours are still better than the rest of ours though.
Also, it might be appropriate to consider removing Lain. He has not done anything close to impressive in over 6 months. His only notable performance was like 5th or something at REVENGE. And there he lost to a fox player (who isn't even listed in the top 5
Apex is the only tourney he's entered this year, and his round 1 pool did not have a single player whose name I recognized. His 2nd he didn't make it out of.
Last tourney he was at before APEX he went more MK, and the times I saw him go ICs he lost to Zinoto, and Sparta Kick. It should be further noted that my ICs double 2 stocked SK in that same tournament.
He does not have access to a wii and has not been to a smashfest since mid summer. You could count the number of times he's played since August on a single hand. He's rusty with his ICs at best, his cgs less consistent than my grandmother's bowels, and uses mk more times than not.
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and he's taught me much of what I know. But when he switches mains, doesn't practice, under performs, and then doesn't show up at all. It may be time to consider his reign at an end.
I hope I'm not considered bad at
: after losing 1 match of it at APEX on Castle Siege.
You're pretty bad at it, bro.I hope I'm not considered bad at
I mean...I went to Apex and placed the same as Lain. I talked to lain about my pool and his and he thought my pool was considerable harder and that he would have gotten last in my pool.
I never did this tho?
I was going based off of what happened with Anther. Since he is exactly for pikachu what Lain is for ICs. He got dropped below every other decent pikachu. Is he better than virtually all of them? Yes. He is at least as good as Z is imo. But this thread keeps saying that only wins in the last ~6 months matter. And that wins from even a year ago are outdated. Otherwise YOU should obviously still be on the list, Hylian.
I know you weren't claiming you were better. You're trying to show an extreme example of how far Lain's fallen off by comparing how you did vs. me and how he did vs. me. There's too many factors to take into account and you can't look at direct comparisons like that, even at the same tourney. I'll definitely admit he's fallen off, but I don't think he'd go any lower than 4... unless the list takes activity into account. And the list is so inconsistent with activity that I assumed that didn't matter. I mean... CO18 is listed as a top 5 DDD?
