KageMurphy
Smash Master
Chibo has wins on Deltacod and Will from his last 2 events, I'd have him as 3rd ROB at the worse.
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The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]
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stingers
Smash Obsessed
put chibo over me...the only things I've done recently are beat z and yoshq in MMs at apex, and take 1 set off kadaj (tho he still beat me in 2 at the same tourney). and beat random people from NC.
Is it some fad to automatically say someone is the best place for X character if they beat Z?
It's kinda getting annoying at this point.
It's kinda getting annoying at this point.
Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.
Smash Master
NOID does have a really good Sheik, I got to see it at apex and was really impressed. I don't really follow results tho.
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
At this rate, I might have to lower Z if he keeps gettin BEAT!
Anyways @ chibo sounds fine, I don't really know how he's doing so that's good.
Anyways @ chibo sounds fine, I don't really know how he's doing so that's good.
Sync.
Smash Champion
You beat me in a MM Stingers
1PokeMastr
Smash Champion
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Has B.o.A been Considered for getting up there with Marth ?
He did place over Mikehaze at the Last tournament they were at, which was.. an E4U Tourney I believe.
He did place over Mikehaze at the Last tournament they were at, which was.. an E4U Tourney I believe.
Neon!
Smash Lord
DK still needs to be changed, to many inactive kongs on the list.
KiraFlax
Smash Lord
Can you link me to oregons current pr. ive been trying to find that thing.
Aight looks like im still needing to put in more work if I want to be known as better than holy. So ima be going a lot more rob in my OoS tournies to gain my rob rep. next big tournies is NYTE (south west regional which all yall should come to) then E4U (west coast regional everyone should come to too)Im lookin at your wins against Pwn, Brick, and t1mmy, those are pretty sufficient wins to put you in "active" and still "good"...
Overall, if anything, I'd like to know if Holy still doin work as well.
I think the list will be at LEAST
Holy, Kira, t0mmy *stinger/chibo*
Expect some good results from me im going in H.A.M.!!!! to let these ni'gga know who I am!!!
Roller
Smash Legend
For one event? I hope not.
Nike.
Smash Hero
While Neo honestly is the second best Marth for this list, he hasn't entered anything since ApexMarth List said:
NorCal is always aib only with their results and rarely post vids, so we don't know if Zex is winning their events and with Marth.
Though I believe they banned MK so I would think that he is.
Someone WC and familiar with their region should shed light if possible.
Kadaj and KillLock I think are both secure for their current spots (3rd and 5th).
KillLock in general is extremely underrated outside of Marth Nation and Canada, but his Marth is ridiculously good.
Mintyflesh would be the next in line, based on the vids from his last tourney.
However, you'd have to ask yourself if Neo and/or Zex deserve to be on the list.
There's a decent drop in skill after that.
I guess you could technically throw in Roy_R, Chaz, and Pierce7d if you ignored retired status (they enter about 1-2 tournies a year).
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
Why replace the other inactive people with people that are "barely" active / almost inactive status?
Wasn't that Minty's first tournament in awhile? Also iirc he didn't even beat anyone notable.
Wasn't that Minty's first tournament in awhile? Also iirc he didn't even beat anyone notable.
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
Yea I feel like, if anything I want everyone else to be confident in you being 1st, not just me. From the sounds of it you deserve it because holy hasnt gone all rob forever, but most certainly will be going mostly rob now cuz of mk ban in lots of areas.
I mean, I put that as an "AT LEAST" list, it really should be IMO you as first because you've shown exemplary promise.
So, with that in mind, does anyone know of HOLY's recent accomplishments for comparison? I like Kira's mindset, to prove it and not worry of placement, but in the meantime let's make sure my next major update is correct.
Nike.
Smash Hero
This is one philosophy that I disagree with, the same that a majority of the people in this thread do. I think that there's more to what a player places at events (or who they beat). Actually going back and analyzing the videos, watching how players read and use their character, and then comparing it to others. That should also be a big indicator when literally comparing players against each other. Alot of times people in this thread decide "Hey, this guy placed 3rd at this event and he beat so and so, he should get a spot on this list." I can't agree with that (a majority of the time).
EX: For those comparing Havok/MVD/Mikeray with each other. Why not pull the last 4-5 sets they've played from youtube and watch them? Alot of variables could easily happen in matches that could greatly influence your perspective on a player. However, this won't be seen on a bracket image and so judgement becomes altered and sometimes biased.
Everytime there's something like:
- Razer/Ally
- Havok/MVD/Mikeray
- Player1/Felix/GDX/Dekar
- 4God/Zekey/Atomsk
- Like every single IC's
- Denti/Anuar/Logic/RB
Unless it was something extremely outlier or obviously noticeable.
I've honestly always thought that top5 list's for each character should be decided from their specific character board. Most of the people on the character boards actually know the players, how they place, their playstyle, etc alot more. And I'd trust and their judgement over how thing's are decided here. If I remember right, the Yoshi's recently made the list themselves and someone relayed it to this thread. And I thought that was very smart of them. I know I wouldn't debate my opinion of any players/list outside of Marth's because I know that there's just too much speculation, bias, and not enough research put into it to back it up. Now there ARE people who do ALOT of homework on this game and outside of one character. Gheb's a pretty good example, and I always enjoy reading his post's when they are informative. This is, however, a rarity in this thread sadly.
I'll probably get alot of flack for this since most of the people who post in this thread won't agree with it at all.
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
Because there are more flaws with deciding it by video than to do it by the person they beat(opponent's abilities, you won't be able to accurately decide if they are consistent either, etc.)
IMO it should be person they beat>placing> consistency> then videos as a last resort. When it comes to deciding who is better than whoever.
IMO it should be person they beat>placing> consistency> then videos as a last resort. When it comes to deciding who is better than whoever.
Player-1
Smash Legend
lolz at using vids
Dcold
Smash Lord
Using a video to determine who is better doesn't show consistency. I agree, your placing doesn't mean much if you're getting byes left and right and really easy matches, but beating other notable/good people does, and shows consistency as 1 win on a good player doesn't make you dabess.
If you're going to use videos to determine who is better, may aswell let every single character board decide who their Top 5 is, and construct the list like that. That could work, but not every character board really follows everyone that uses that character in tournament as closely as others do.
If you're going to use videos to determine who is better, may aswell let every single character board decide who their Top 5 is, and construct the list like that. That could work, but not every character board really follows everyone that uses that character in tournament as closely as others do.
Nike.
Smash Hero
I don't disagree that results should be ignored altogether. That would obv be dum. But using them as the only standard is what I disagree with. There should be balance.
About your second point, I fully support specific character boards rating their character. Nothing's stopping others from posting there, the topic isn't changing since it's literally one character, and alot more people that use the character get more involved. I see it as a success anyway.
falln
Smash Ace
with regards to zex he beats everyone in norcal consistently with marth. he also sometimes goes falco and wins everything and sometimes goes mk and wins everything. the tl;dr is he wins everything and he mains marth so yea
also i dont like the idea of the list being decided by the boards. not everyone posts in their character's respective boards much (when i first started posting on swf a few months ago not a single member of the kirby panel knew who i was LOL) whereas within the collective community its pretty easy to get accurate information on everyone who's worthy of being a contender
also i dont like the idea of the list being decided by the boards. not everyone posts in their character's respective boards much (when i first started posting on swf a few months ago not a single member of the kirby panel knew who i was LOL) whereas within the collective community its pretty easy to get accurate information on everyone who's worthy of being a contender
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[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
No...Viviff cannot be Seto Kaiba, he lost to a Link player...I'm the only Seto Kaiba.
Zano
Smash Master
I own 3 blue eyes white dragon cards, I'm ****ing seto *****es.
edit: ****, why did I post and ruin my post count : (
edit: ****, why did I post and ruin my post count : (
TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
You lost to Exodia, stfu
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
I don't intend to allow the placement of players in their respective top 5s to be determined by character boards, however I do encourage discussion within their own boards to suggest changes.
In fact, I have thought of putting discussion threads for the Top 5 in each character board or asking an ambassador per character board to do so. That way they could keep track of changes and such.
But that might bloat them some? Hm... I don't know if it's neccessary.
@spam: No mercy. Stop it.
In fact, I have thought of putting discussion threads for the Top 5 in each character board or asking an ambassador per character board to do so. That way they could keep track of changes and such.
But that might bloat them some? Hm... I don't know if it's neccessary.
@spam: No mercy. Stop it.
Neon!
Smash Lord
Depending on the level of activity we're going by the DK list could either be:
(average ranking since brawl's release, imo)
1. Will
2. Cable
3. Bum
4. Dr. Grandpa
5. Ook
or...
(placings from this year)
1. Will
2. Nairo
3. Ripple
4. Neon
5. mar1
I'm guessing we want something in the middle...
(average ranking since brawl's release, imo)
1. Will
2. Cable
3. Bum
4. Dr. Grandpa
5. Ook
or...
(placings from this year)
1. Will
2. Nairo
3. Ripple
4. Neon
5. mar1
I'm guessing we want something in the middle...
Patches
Smash Master
Honestly, poke > i1337
i1337 is inactive now, but poke places higher, but using Marth and Falco as well.
Or even Attila from Nova Scotia. He has a good DK. He got 13th at RoS using a lot of DK.
i1337 is inactive now, but poke places higher, but using Marth and Falco as well.
Or even Attila from Nova Scotia. He has a good DK. He got 13th at RoS using a lot of DK.
Neon!
Smash Lord
I wasnt sure about how active Attile or mar1 are. Attila could be on the list also. I've never heard of poke, where is he from?
Patches
Smash Master
He goes by 1PokeMastr. I think he's... 10th on Southern Ontarios PR.
Mar1 was at RoS, I'm not sure how he did though. He could be a candidate. As for how active either one is, I couldn't tell ya. I'd assume since they both came to RoS though, I'd say they're active enough. Lol
Mar1 was at RoS, I'm not sure how he did though. He could be a candidate. As for how active either one is, I couldn't tell ya. I'd assume since they both came to RoS though, I'd say they're active enough. Lol
Neon!
Smash Lord
oh, 1pokemaster, i know who that is. If it was between mar1, attila and pokemaster i would go with mar1.
Patches
Smash Master
I've played all 3. Granted, I play Mar1 well over a year ago though, but I could agree with that. I've also played i1337, he's good, but not top 5.
Ruinn
Smash Ace
out of mar1, attila i1337 and poke it'd have to go:
i1337(in his prime), mar1, poke/attila
i1337(in his prime), mar1, poke/attila
Patches
Smash Master
Honestly... i1337 did well, but I think that the only reason for that was because people didnt know the MU in our region.
MU in our region.
Ruinn
Smash Ace
meh, maybe. But i1337's dk is pretty legit. But we all know who should be first on that list, 
Patches
Smash Master
Make it past me first, I'm known as the DK slayer these days. 
Ruinn
Smash Ace
wwifi doesn't count qq play me offline! ;x
play me offline! ;x
Roller
Smash Legend
DRDN
Smash Master
that squirtle was putting in work though
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