New evidence against Nabe:
I didn't want you to put it in a way, I wanted an answer to my question. This isn't getting anywhere.
In my opinion full read lists are a bag of **** and anti-town. Despite that, you have all my reads (in a list), and scattered through the thread is my reasoning as well. This is probably the most open book game I've ever played, minorly aggravating to get called out despite that but w/e.
You're asking me to conglomerate all my reads and reasoning into one post; fair enough since they're already out, I'll indulge that. But you've read my posts at least three times and given that you're content to call me scummy for it, should have enough specific memory of my posts to be able to refer to the reads you think are lacking. Instead, your complaint is specifically "he doesn't have a reads post" and you refuse to indulge me when I ask you for specific problems, a point I've been hammering on again and again. Your complaint is empty and you refuse to fill it.
You're scum. After I indulge you, I'm going to tunnel you into the ground.
Nabe's pulled a huge straw man on me here, and I can prove it. The following series of quotes recall how exactly this argument came up, and should make clear my intentions.
Anyway, my reads and reasoning... Number 1 would be Nabe for reasons past stated (I think everyone knows why I dislike him at this point. If they haven't, they've been skimming really badly.) Number 2 would probably be video at the moment, as Swiss's case was making a lot of sense (and there were some real video/nabe parallels between their actions) when I ISO'd the slot, but X1's list of reads with reasoning makes me feel somewhat better about video (Nabe has not done anything like that all game. ALL GAME).
This is what starts it off, where I mention that X1's list of reads + reasoning made me feel better about video's slot, and I mention that Nabe hasn't done anything like that all game (that is, give reads with REASONING and try to get them lynched.)
So in your opinion, posting full read lists is a strong standard town play?
Nabe asks if full read lists are standard town play.
@Nabe
The reasoning behind the slot's reads seemed legitimate, and they actually did it without being pressed for it. Basically, it showcased a desire to actually scum hunt, something you haven't displayed at all this game.
I explain that it's not the read list but rather the reasoning being legitimate and showing a desire to scum hunt. (The implication is that the read lists themselves are more of a null tell.)
Good to see you're still capable of being a *******, so no worries in that direction, but this doesn't answer the question I posed in 2169.
He claims it doesn't answer his question. (He's not interested in why I have a town read on video.)
@Nabe
Let me put it this way. Just because someone gave a list of reads doesn't make them town, but if they've avoided giving such a list in a game this size, then it's a red flag.
I give my position, that giving reads doesn't make someone town, but that withholding them is a red flag. Note the subtlety here. I'm not insisting on a FULL read list, I just want the player's strongest scum picks and important town picks, along with some reasoning. This is something I've been consistent with all through the blasted game. Now here comes the straw man.
I didn't want you to put it in a way, I wanted an answer to my question. This isn't getting anywhere.
In my opinion full read lists are a bag of **** and anti-town. Despite that, you have all my reads (in a list), and scattered through the thread is my reasoning as well. This is probably the most open book game I've ever played, minorly aggravating to get called out despite that but w/e.
He pretends I'm asking for a full read list, and calls the idea anti-town. Now, disliking full read lists isn't a scum tell on it's own. (That was the Dgames stance on the issue for a while.) However, he's completely straw manned my argument, I want his main reads + reasoning, he pretends I want a full read list and tells me to look through the thread for something he hasn't given.
You're asking me to conglomerate all my reads and reasoning into one post; fair enough since they're already out, I'll indulge that. But you've read my posts at least three times and given that you're content to call me scummy for it, should have enough specific memory of my posts to be able to refer to the reads you think are lacking. Instead, your complaint is specifically "he doesn't have a reads post" and you refuse to indulge me when I ask you for specific problems, a point I've been hammering on again and again. Your complaint is empty and you refuse to fill it.
What Nabe's doing here is he's trying to shift the burden of proof on me over one simple request.
I want him to showcase his desire to hunt and lynch scum via quotes.
The ONLY instance he has of doing so is his push on me, and if you've read my case, you know he was lurking before that. If he hadn't come up with some sort of case, he'd have looked quite suspicious for inactivity. Even he's basically admitted this.
Also, Nabe knows me going back through and pointing out the reads he hasn't given via reasoning is pointless. I'm not after a list of reads for every single player in the game. I'm after a few scum reads with some reasoning behind them, and he can't give them.
His only strong scum read through 2000 posts is me.
And I'd like to note that almost ALL the case on me is based on either my supposedly "bad" push on him (Classic oh-my-gosh you suck, my case has been called townie by just about everyone BUT him), or Reyth's old case, which focuses completely on my play from posts #155 and before.
That's right, his only real scum read is based on stuff from 2000 posts ago and a little oh my gosh you suck.
You're scum. After I indulge you, I'm going to tunnel you into the ground.
This is war. I'm not backing down on this one, this is the strongest scum read I've had in games. I'm going to showcase your scumminess to everyone, pushing your case until I see you flip scum as the D1 lynch.
A murderer that intentionally leaves a trail for its victims? shelly, nancy, laurie... they'd all hide for that 
What motive behind the intention is there in doing either of these things? =?
