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Quiet you, I got the foxes here didn't I?Sure, just post in their matchup threads instead of making individual threads about it.
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How bout you try it And see that you can do it guaranteed^
Can we get some frame data before saying stuff like that? It's been proven that it does not work on falco or mk, whats to stop it from not working on ganon?
It doesn't work on MK? I swear I've done it inescapably if you get the final release a bit before the ledge. And it was on a player that, when released from the very edge, would always dodge the spike.^
Can we get some frame data before saying stuff like that? It's been proven that it does not work on falco or mk, whats to stop it from not working on ganon?
Then don't do it like I said. On all the Ganons I have played it worked on so I am going to keep doing it. If it doesn't work for you then don't^
I have tried it and they have up aired me out of it every single time. I really don't think it works.
MK's airdodge isn't what lets him escape, its shuttle loop.It doesn't work on MK? I swear I've done it inescapably if you get the final release a bit before the ledge. And it was on a player that, when released from the very edge, would always dodge the spike.
And even if the spike isn't guaranteed, it still puts Ganon in a bad spot. Maybe a SH Dair to gimp him or something. Or you can throw him off the edge. Grabbing is still excellent on Ganon.
Edit 1: Falco AND Ganon can only be Egg layed out of release offstage.
Sheik AND Squirtle CANNOT escape the grab release to Fair offsage.
Wolf AND Fox are immune from anything inesacpeable. However, you can possibly pressure him away to get a efficient gimp kill.
Edit 2: Ness can be Uaired out of release.
There's your answer. They just need to move backwards, and then Uair us away.^
Can we get some frame data before saying stuff like that? It's been proven that it does not work on falco or mk, whats to stop it from not working on ganon?
Yoshi generally gets ***** harder than any other character on wifi; although there are exceptions. Sir Orion is a wifi player so it really doesn't bother him. Don't use wifi to entirely judge a matchup and say its unwinnable.This is one of Ganon's 4 unwinnable matchups, in my opinion. Ganon has NOTHING going for him in this matchup except Choke>Ftilt for kills. Ganon can't win on the ground because of the chaingrab, he can't stay far away because the eggs, and he can't win in the air because you guys get to choose when you want super armor and your mobility in the air shuts Ganon down. Ganon can't gimp you, which is one of his main ways of getting kills. I counterpick away from Ganon as soon as I see my opponent using Yoshi. I find Yoshi a harder opponent that Falco.
That of Sir 0rion is just a significantly better player than me, or Yoshi benefits hugely from wifi.
Not even close. Yoshi gets hurt badly in wifi that isn't green.That of Sir 0rion is just a significantly better player than me, or Yoshi benefits hugely from wifi.
This is commonly known as being predictable. Synonyms: Bad, ur gonna get neutral bdYes, down-B has like a stupid amount of priority in the air. Or maybe it's just fast, I don't know...
It kills WAY too early, though. That's why I just wait on the ground most of the time and Egg Toss them when they are far and up-smash/pivot-grab when they get close.
With a cg release to up smash? Good luck with that one.well like I said his smashes are easily avoidable, and he doesnt have much else to finish that early but his Uair, and DownB wins. I can survive to high 180-200 every life.