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I loved the hell out of this movie the first two times I saw it. Then it came out on DVD and I watched it again and...it was okay. I'm struggling to find what it was that I was so enamored with. It is neat, and very well put together, but it just rings hollow for me. It feels like no real genuine emotion went into the making of it.

And also, I hate how boring the end climax was. It's so lame that three levels down into someone's subconscious and it looks like a generic James Bond snow fortress level. Nothing super crazy even happens there. When the van flips, I was expecting that entire world to go nuts with anti-gravity. What happens? Oh, an avalanche and....that's it?

The training session with Ariadne where she flips the world over on itself was my highlight...but I still feel a little disappointed. When I saw that in the previews, it was the most epic thing ever. It's still pretty epic in the movie, but it set up a lot of expectations for the rest of the movie that were barely met. I was also expecting it to happen during a scene of conflict. As there wasn't any real conflict in that scene, it just wasn't as exciting as it could have been.
Eh, I don't really see the snow level as the end climax, it's more a setup for the confrontation in limbo in my opinion. Wait, wasn't the avalanche caused by Yusuf hitting the barrier with the van, not the van flipping? And they sort of explain it earlier when they say that they wouldn't be able to feel the plane turbulence in the second level, and so something 2 levels up wouldn't have as big of an effect as it could if it were a level up. Snow fortress served its purpose though as something they needed to infiltrate in order to complete inception. Definitely could've been cooler, though.

I do agree with the part about Ariadne, the only thing from the training about bending physics that they use are the never ending staircase when Arthur is fighting off the people in the hotel staircase. Did you pick up on the thing at the very end? I feel like it's important and a lot of people don't really get it.
 

Luigitoilet

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I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at because I don't know what people may have "missed" so I'll just give my thoughts on the whole end bit

To me, the end shot is a bit of a joke from Nolan. That the title of the film doesn't appear until directly after this shot is very clever. In making the top spin for a while, falter, regain momentum, then cutting to black plants a seed of doubt in the audience's head. We are "incepted" with the idea of "this whole movie might be a dream". The fact that it does not reveal either way is what makes it effective. To tell the truth, I was ready to groan and roll my eyes if the top kept spinning indefinitely.

Furthermore, many people overlook what I feel is the most important aspect of the ending: Cobb spins the top one last time, and walks off to see his children without looking back. It is us who lingers on the top, the question of reality. Cobb has his children. Real or not, it doesn't matter to him anymore. The same way Fischer's artificial experience with his father led to genuine emotion, such as it is with Cobb. It is the effect that matters, not the "truth". Cobb's character arc is complete, regardless of what in the movie is "real life" and what is not. That's why it bugs me when people argue over the ending in that way. If you want to get really meta, the whole movie is very obviously a dream, it's Chris Nolan's dream. Remember how Cobb at one point mentions that in dreams, you never really remember getting to where you are at any given moment, you are just there. Very similar to how different scenes work in cinema, no?

...or maybe it's our dream and Nolan is the architect!
 

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Yeah, I was talking about the part when Cobb walks away. People dwell on "well it could've been a dream or reality" because that's what we see, but the most important part of the ending is that Cobb walks away from the top before he sees the outcome, something we've never seen him do in the movie prior to that, because he's laid his past to rest and is home with his children. I do think a lot of people miss the significance of that.
 

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Well aren't you special. That is something that we care about and is relevant. Do you want an award? here



Anyways

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring

The first half of this movie is beautiful, brilliant and really funny and charming. It's about a man and a boy in religious seclusion. I want to say they are Buddhists, but I don't know enough about eastern religion so I won't say anything and make myself sound dumb.

The movie watches them through the "seasons" of their life. The man is wise and full of peace, but the boy is troubled and full of lust and desire and at war with himself. As a child, he torments small animals by tying rocks to their bodies. The wise old man sees this, and when the boy is sleeping, he ties a rock to him. He makes the boy search out and find the animals he weighted down, and orders him to free them before he himself will be released. "if any of the animals are dead, you will carry this stone in your heart forever"

Then the boy becomes a teenager, and a sickly girl from the city arrives hoping for a spiritual healing. The boy is overcome with lust. The wise man lets nature take its course, but soon sends the girl off. "Lust awakens the desire to possess. Possession awakens the desire to murder."

I won't go on spoiling the movie. but I will say that about halfway through, the film lost me. The Winter section of the film is visually stunning, but I just plain didn't understand the significance of anything that happened. This is probably a movie that could benefit from reading about to have a better understanding of the spirituality behind it.

But as it is, I really really enjoyed it. The Wise Man character is very endearing.

4.5/5
 

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lmaooo got em!

so anyone else enjoy sucker punch as much as i did? it got horrible reviews, thats why i ask.
 

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I really wanted to see Sucker Punch because Emily Browning pushes every single one of my buttons...but then I heard it was really bad so I didn't want to spend 15 bucks on what amounts to a softcore porn
 

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Yeah. No matter what movie, once I start watching it I try as hard as I can to just forget everything. I generally don't read anything about movies before I see them but sometimes you can't help it.
 

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Same... I kinda religiously follow Rotten Tomatoe reviews haha. Only because they correspond with my opinions on a movie majority of the time.
 

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I've came across a list of movies and Hard Candy was one of them. I watched the trailer first and what was OK. In short I liked the movie but I think that girl was ****ed for what she did lol. This is why I don't like to trust people. Things happen differently from what I thought but I hated the ending. She owned the guy... Good movie in my opinion. Planning on watching The Hills Have Eyes and a few other movies. I watched 4.3.2.1 last week. Seemed liked a kind of movie towards a female audience and then later shifted to a male audience. Basically back and forth I guess. Took me a few seconds to catch on but I thought it turned out pretty well when everything came together. The beginning came at the end... I started watching The Godfather, the original one. I haven't finished it yet but I like it so far. Not 2 hours in to it yet, but so far I like the part when the horse had was in the bed... xD

Yeah. No matter what movie, once I start watching it I try as hard as I can to just forget everything. I generally don't read anything about movies before I see them but sometimes you can't help it.
Haha, I try to do that also xD
 

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While I do read reviews I tend to find that I don't agree with a lot of them. Only ones on the extreme end of the negative spectrum seem to agree with me.

:phone:
 

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@Peeze

That seems a bit high? Examples? Haha I mean I'm not a critic worshipper but I generally agree with stuff. And sometimes I check rt after I see movies. Not a site I hate but people should develop their own opinions. :)

@Nine-Tailed Assassin

Hard Candy. Love that movie. So much fun, and great poster :). It's entertaining but also deep. . . And I love the final shot
 

Mota

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Indeed, I figured instead of seeing one persons review, it'd be more accurate to get an average or whatever of a bunch of reviews.

I find people tend to dislike RT lol. Where do other people go for reviews, that's if you look at reviews at all.
 

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Watched The Expendables last night. Thought it was a pretty solid movie, with a very good cast. Lots of action and such, except what I didn't like about it, is the main characters never got injured, pretty much throughout the movie. All these action scenes, lots of fighting, and knives flying everywhere, guns going off, and they remain untouched.
 

SSBMLahti

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Ip Man 1 & 2 were epic. *Waits for Ip Man 3 feat. The Fake Bruce Lee*

*Waits for The Hobbit Part 1*

LOTR are the only movies that go even with the books. Every other movie out there doesn't compare to the books.

According to Google Chrome, movie isn't a word.
 

Mota

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Ahh enjoyed Ip Man! The second wasn't as good, but still decent.
Heard Donnie Yen didn't want to make Ip Man 3 :(
 

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Ahh enjoyed Ip Man! The second wasn't as good, but still decent.
Heard Donnie Yen didn't want to make Ip Man 3 :(
Yeah I heard he didn't want to do a 3rd movie...but I think one is in the works. I'm too sure sure, but let's hope so 'cause I loved them. And it'll be cool 'cause I'm sure most people don't know much about Bruce Lee's background other than he was some badass martial artist.
 

Mota

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Isn't that the one that has SMELL O VISION or whatever? How did that work out?
You get to smell Jessica Alba's hair :awesome:

Yeah I heard he didn't want to do a 3rd movie...but I think one is in the works. I'm too sure sure, but let's hope so 'cause I loved them. And it'll be cool 'cause I'm sure most people don't know much about Bruce Lee's background other than he was some badass martial artist.
I hope so! :)
Yea I didn't know much about his roots either. Watching him in movies, you wouldn't think he learnt Wing chun.
 
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