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he can d-throw tech-chase, but its not very good...Can Kirby even combo Falco? It's pretty bad if you can't get more than 20% off against a spacie before resetting.
wtf, kirby is not a girl...even if kirby can laser spam should she ever get a swallow, lasers wont win the game for him..and i cant imagine falco being above kirby ever being good for him.
and wtf is kirby gonna do if the falco just chills under a platform and shoots his lasarz
I remember going falco vs you at pound 4 in pools. The matchup is pretty bad.just my 2 cents:
falco >> luigi, considering the current falco metagame and such..
I used to think it was more or less an even match-up, but the beastliness of falcos nowadays is pretty rough on luigi. I've only played it a few times since I came back to melee and it hasn't been pretty lol. (used to love the match-up lol )
edit: btw I'm talking about falcos at a real high level.. otherwise I think luigi dunks on other falcos
**** straight.I guess Shine to Upsmash is just too good in that matchup.
thats because horizontal kill moves are based on fall speed and weight, not just weight. There was a list of the exact percent that every character dies off the top of FD with no DI from fox's usmash. Falcon was the most resilient with 123% followed by ganon and bowser iirc then falco and fox.
roy is the heaviest character that falls from shine (under marth, above fox i believe), zelda is near doc's weight.
I thought falco had the most resistance.yeah falcon has the best vertical resistance but iirc falco second
looks like the fast fall chart to me... perhaps m2's uthrow isn't effected by weight?I thought falco had the most resistance.
At least based on mewtwos upthrows with no DI. When I went through all the upthrow percentages I got this:
1 Jiggly Puff --------------------86-92
2 Zelda-------------------------- 92-98
3 Samus------------------------- 95-100
4 Luigi---------------------------- 95-100
5 Peach ------------------------- 96-101
6 Kirby--------------------------- 96-101
7 Mewtwo -----------------------97-102
8 I.C. Popo---------------------- 98-103*
9 Game & Watch--------------- 101-106
10 Dr. Mario ---------------------101-106
11 Mario --------------------------101-106
12 Ness--------------------------- 103-109
13 Yoshi ---------------------------107-112
14 Pichu --------------------------107-113
15 Pikachu ------------------------108-114
16 Bowser -------------------------116-121
17 Marth ---------------------------117-122
18 Young Link ----------------------117-123
19 Link -----------------------------117-123
20 Ganondorf ----------------------118-124
21 Sheik -----------------------------118-124
22 Dk ---------------------------------128-134
23 Roy --------------------------------128-134
24 C.Falcon -------------------------151-156
25 Fox------------------------------ 152-157
26 Falco ----------------------------159-165
This is FD, no DI. The second number is with the upthrow completely lvl 9 stale.
Upthrow does 12.% btw when its fresh. it does 6.5 stale
Idk there may be some difference between throws and physical attacks or something. Or maybe the upsmash hit with diff parts of the hitbox
*Nana is a bit more, only because she seems to input DI from being away from popo, But with perfect DI they should be the same.
The matchup definitely isn't stupid. I agree it's definitely in Falco's advantage, but it's not impossible.Falco vs GnW is stupid. You clip his shield and kill him no matter how well he spaces. Direvulcan comes to mind but that was a long time ago and I havent seen a gnw even be able to move in a match since then >_>
So true.actually it's 100-0 in jiggs' favor cause jiggs has to win.
Link is the best character in Melee.The Falcon board would also say Link beats Falcon.
Just sayin'
fixed./meatrideHDL is the best character in Melee.
Through this reasoning I could say that Sheik Roy isn't that bad because Sliq beat my Sheik with Roy this one time in a friendly.The matchup definitely isn't stupid. I agree it's definitely in Falco's advantage, but it's not impossible.
If it's so hard ask Zhu how i 2 stocked him on YS at pound 4 in a friendly!
then he went peach and 3 stocked me >_> lol
i'm just sayin.
I put a laughing face after i said it to indicate that it was a joke. Sorry if you were mislead.Through this reasoning I could say that Sheik Roy isn't that bad because Sliq beat my Sheik with Roy this one time in a friendly.
Friendlies logic is ****ing stupid.
fixed./meatride
but with ducking under grabs, that means the reverse blazer won't even kill.with jiggs new metagame of ducking under grabs and getting really close, roy has become so much more useful with reverse blazer