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Hoots

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Star, you *******! Stop appealing to my inner 13 year old chocobo fanboy in order to convince me of your crazy and sinister ideas! Speaking of crazy and sinister ideas, apologies once again for not making the Layton Alliance yet. I only have my phone when I'm at work and I can't make a good page with it, and as soon as I get home, I'm busy till I go to bed. HOWEVER! It should all be over soon. In the mean time, help me think up names. Layton's Apprentices? The Puzzlenauts? The League of True Gentlemen? The possiblities are endless!

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Yep, just like that. Only thing is the spotted slime is white with Orange splotches. lol

But its great. May save that image once I'm off work this evening.

Hoots: Professor Layton Alliance - Let's fight... Like gentleman.

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Also, have a roster! It is 55 slots so try not to take it TOO seriously! However, I think that this roster would be fantastic. The roster would have 11 columns and five rows with each franchise being grouped vertically.

Super Mario Franchise
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Paper Mario

Wario Ware Franchise
6. Wario

Yoshi's Island Franchise
7. Yoshi

Donkey Kong Franchise
8. DK
9. Diddy Kong
10. K Rool

Legend of Zelda Franchise
11. Link
12. Zelda
13. Ganondorf
14. Toon Link
15. Tingle

Pokemon Franchise
16. Pikachu
17. Pokemon Trainer
18. Jigglypuff
19. Lucario
20. Zoroark

Kirby Franchise
21. Kirby
22. King Dedede
23. Meta Knight

Kid Icarus Franchise
24. Pit
25. Medusa

Fire Emblem Franchise
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Caeda

Mother Franchise
29. Ness
30. Lucas

Metroid Franchise
31. Samus
32. Ridley

F-Zero Franchise
33. Captain Falcon
34. Black Shadow

Pikmin Franchise
35. Captain Olimar

Starfox Franchise
36. Fox
37. Falco
38. Wolf
39. Krystal

Sin and Punishment Franchise
40. Saki

Retro Franchises
41. Ice Climbers
42. Mr. Game & Watch
43. R.O.B.
44. Takamaru

Punch Out Franchise
45. Little Mac

Golden Sun Franchise
46. Isaac

Legendary Starfy Franchise
47. Starfy

Custom Robo Franchise
48. Ray MK III

Animal Crossing Franchise
49. Tom Nook

Rolling Western Franchise
50. Jiro

Third Party Franchises
51. Sonic
52. Snake
53. Megaman
54. Geno
55. Professor Layton


I really wanted to include Samurai Goroh, Bowser Jr, Mewtwo, Lyn, Claus, and Andy but there just wasn't enough room.

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Also, how did you get those petition signatures on your blog?
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/CloakedShadow/blackknight.gif" alt="BK Counter" height="50" width="100" />
<iframe src="http://www.petitiononline.com/signatures.php?petition=Begnion" frameborder="0" height="36" scrolling="no" width="102"></iframe>
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<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/CloakedShadow/victini.gif" alt="Victini Count" height="50" width="100" /> <iframe src="http://www.petitiononline.com/signatures.php?petition=unova" frameborder="0" height="36" scrolling="no" width="102"></iframe>

One of these two formats should work. However, you'll have to create a GIF for Slime & Chocobo and do a petition on Petition Online.
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There will be a button that says "add authors". And you'll input their email addresses.
Thanks, but the problem is that I don't know yours or others e-mail address, which prevent me from adding you or anyone else. Is there anyway I can find out or do you have to tell me (Do so by PM. I don't want anyone getting their e-mail hacked and I promise after I add you that I will delete the e-mail)?
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If we somehow got Zoroark instead of Victini then I would probably doubt Mewtwo or Lucario, thus we might get a WTF like Meowth as a fifth rep, honestly though I'd rather see Mewtwo coming back, alot of people seem to like him coming back as well.
Honestly, if Zoroark gets in, I doubt we're getting five slots for Pokemon.
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More importantly, WHY DO NEARLY ALL THIRD-PARTY POTENTIAL CHARACTERS HAVE TO BE BLUE.
What about Ryu Hayabusa, Travis Touchdown, Pac-Man, and Professor Layton?
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In the mean time, help me think up names. Layton's Apprentices? The Puzzlenauts? The League of True Gentlemen? The possiblities are endless!
You should try to join the Kremling Krew.

As for names, try Layton's Apprentices or The League of True Gentlemen.
 

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Huh? Okay, my bad. Look just because I like Dragon Quest doesn't mean I'm 100% on everything. Although I swore there was a white and orange Slime in DQVI...

Also, SSBF. Already have the petition.

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Here's my roster. Don't take it seriously though:

Mario universe:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Toad
Paper Mario

Zelda universe:
Link
Zelda/Shiek
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Ghirahim

Donkey Kong universe:
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
K Rool
Dixie Kong

Yoshi universe:
Yoshi
Kamek

Metroid universe:
Samus/Zero suit
Ridley
Dark Samus

Kirby universe:
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Waddle Dee *

Star Fox universe:
Fox
Falco
Wolf

Pokemon universe:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Zoroark
Victini
Meowth
Pokemon trainer

F - Zero universe:
Captain Falcon

Earthbound universe:
Ness
Lucas

Fire Emblem universe:
Marth
Ike

Wario universe:
Wario

Pikmin universe:
Olimar

Punch-out universe:
Little Mac
King Hippo

Kid Icarus universe:
Pit
Medusa
Paletuna

Retro/Nintendo universe:
Game and Watch
Ice Climbers
ROB
Takamaru
Mike Jones

Sin and Punishment:
Saki

Animal Crossing:
Tom Nook *

3rd party:
Snake
Sonic
Mega Man
Chris Redfield *
Phoenix Wright *
 

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Slime and Chocobo would be ashamed to have you, one who lacks any dedication, as the leader of their campaign.

HOW COULD YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING WITH YOUR LACK OF CONVICTION.
 
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?

Anyway, Oasis. We can't be 100% on everything. It's not like we are fully expecting these characters to get in.
 

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Didn't MvC3 essentially have a mission mode that taught you how to combo/use moves to get specific results? I think if Smash wanted to go any more in-depth than Melee something to this extent would help loads. I found MvC's "Mission Mode" usefull.
Thing is, that one and the one in SF4 don't actually teach you anything. You're not learning how to cancel, jump cancel, etc. Not only that, but you never got a visual demonstration for the combo. BlazBlue, on the other hand, went out of its way to make an extensive tutorial mode (not as big as VF4's) and for the challenge mode, you can choose to see what the combo looks like.
 

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As for which roster was better, both made some odd or lousy choices:
Melee Roster
  • Clones for the sake of more characters (although at least Ganondorf and Pichu were good choices if you just look at them as character additions without complaining about their clone status)

Brawl Roster
  • Unnecessary removal of Mewtwo
  • A third Star Fox character that was a semi-clone and whose place could be taken by a new franchise or a more deserving character; he can stay now that he's here, but couldn't we have gotten better?
  • Semi-clones. Why, Sakurai, did you make Lucas a semi-clone of Ness when you planned on keeping Ness all this time? Where's the logic in not completely or mostly de-cloning all the characters you bring from Melee, yet adding two new semi-clones to that list?
  • Only one new modern Nintendo franchise (Pikmin)

Both games had problems with their rosters. I hope SSB4 does a better job of handling the roster.
Fixed myself.

BTW, everyone has suggested what characters would make a great SSB4 trailer. Well, what would you think would the worst selection of new characters to show in a SSB4 trailer?

Personally, I would die a little inside if I saw this in order:
  • Waddle Dee
  • Urban Champion
  • Adam Malkovich
  • Waluigi
  • Mickey Mouse

I'm sorry, I did not know you requested something earlier. Here you go though:

I'm satisfied.

Just kidding. But thank you. :)

For those still interested in the alliances created a few days ago, I created an over-arching site that supports this plan. It won't cover just one site, it'll cover all sites.

Here it is, made by me. Right now, it's in an infant stage with nothing added except links to others place in regards to SCAM (Smashboard's Character Alliance Movement). I want this to be a site where everyone can contribute to it and a site that supports the following alliances:

- Project Unova
- Project Begnion
- Operation Hoenn Rising
- Ruffian Forever
- The Toad Bridgade
- The Kremling Krew
- The Strong Team!
- Panel De Pwnage

I'm going to try to work on a site and get an entry up for all sections. Constructive criticism is absolutely appreciated and needed. Tomorrow, I'll make a social group.
I'll need to check how many members are actually a part of each group and possible others before I make an alliance myself.

BTW, would anyone join a non-character alliance? If I did my alliance, it would more focused on getting one particular franchise represented with a stage, Assist Trophy, and assorted trophies and stickers - not with a character.

Star, you *******! Stop appealing to my inner 13 year old chocobo fanboy in order to convince me of your crazy and sinister ideas! Speaking of crazy and sinister ideas, apologies once again for not making the Layton Alliance yet. I only have my phone when I'm at work and I can't make a good page with it, and as soon as I get home, I'm busy till I go to bed. HOWEVER! It should all be over soon. In the mean time, help me think up names. Layton's Apprentices? The Puzzlenauts? The League of True Gentlemen? The possiblities are endless!
Wikipedia Article

Enough said.

Anyways, something to discuss. I saw a suggestion on GameFaqs from someone who was disappointed that he could unlock every character from just progressing through Adventure Mode, and he suggested that Adventure Mode only be unlocked after all characters are unlocked - that way, you still enjoy the sensation and mystery of the "Warning! Challenger Apporaching!" screen without spoilers while still having every character featured in Adventure Mode.


Should the complete Adventure Mode only be unlocked once you've unlocked all the playable characters?
 
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No. Adventure mode made it way easier for me to unlock all the characters.

Ehh... It's an easier way to unlock characters.
 

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No. Adventure mode made it way easier for me to unlock all the characters.

Ehh... It's an easier way to unlock characters.
Seriously. If I have to suffer through another atrocious SSE to unlock everyone, Imma be pissed.

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I wouldn't. Lol. I play SSE for the sake of unlocking everyone. I disliked playing matches like over 39012478293752935723570 times. Rather do something shorter than repeat the same matches. Lol.

Plus, brawl gave you the option to either unlock everyone through SSE OR through matches
 

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I approve of that idea. Having Adventure mode broken up into chapters. Also, after you complete each chapter and aren't able to progress it should give you a hint on how to unlock the character required for the following chapter.

Let's say the next chapter has Saki, but you need to complete Classic Mode once on "Very Difficult". It should give you a screen such as this:

"Big rewards come to those who push themselves in Classic mode"

Just something like that.

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I just want to unlock all the characters right away. That's all. I'm not sure what Sakurai will do to adventure mode. He'll probably make another one.
If I were Nintendo, my choices for a Smash Bros. 4 trailer to build real hype are:

King K. Rool (antagonist)
Little Mac (he's not retro, but he's got that retro type of appeal; retro-ish character)
Ridley (new Metroid character)
Isaac (new franchise character)
Megaman (third-party character)
For me? Hmm....

None yet. Who I'm expecting? Hm...... I'm not gonna answer that question yet. You guys might find this weird but there are some characters that I find questionable despite how "likely" (Arbitrary) they are.
 

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Wait can we talk about that Sakurai interview again. I wish reporters weren't so goddamn awful and would stop confusing us, but what does it mean that concerning new characters, it will be similar to Brawl. Does that make ANY sense to anyone?

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I actually wouldn't mind that. Make you work for your unlockables instead of being given to you.

I still don't want to see as large of a scaled Adventure Mode like SSE. It's been suggested, but if they really must have a story, have the adventure mode broken up into parts based on what character you choose. BlazBlue's story mode, in particular, worked like this and you couldn't continue with the storyline with other characters unless you cleared other chapters.
 
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Sakurai's way of deciding? Okay, I don't know how he'll decide. He might pull a Snake on us. The way he decides varies. Mainly it goes like this:

Nintendo > Sakurai > Unique > Popularity > Stuff

That's what I think

And this is where I ask my question about the following characters: Krystal and Junior.

Why didn't they appear at all? At least Ridley appeared as a boss but what happened to these 2? At least make Jr. a boss in brawl but why didn't he do it? Wasn't Jr. one of the most requested in the brawl days? As for Krystal, why didn't she appear too?
 

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I don't think Adventure Mode should serve for unlocking characters. I found it more fun to unlock the characters in Melee than Brawl.

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I don't know about this chapter suggestion. Sakuari might as well make it the so called bland, boring and repetitive adventure mode or add some more variety. It can go either way but Sakurai said that he'll be focusing more on the multiplayer but this is not a reason to expect less from the adventure mode in SSB 4
 

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And this is where I ask my question about the following characters: Krystal and Junior.

Why didn't they appear at all? At least Ridley appeared as a boss but what happened to these 2? At least make Jr. a boss in brawl but why didn't he do it? Wasn't Jr. one of the most requested in the brawl days? As for Krystal, why didn't she appear too?
Krystal appeared in the Lylat Cruise conversations, and in one of them, she, Peppy and Slippy argue over being playable. The conversation ends with her saying she's the best choice.

EDIT: And Sakurai made Brawl's roster easy to obtain because he knew the internet would spoil it. If you want everyone in quickly, play Subspace. If not, play regularly.
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I don't think Adventure Mode should serve for unlocking characters. I found it more fun to unlock the characters in Melee than Brawl.

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Not really, wasn't there an option for unlocking characters in Vs. Or classic mode as well?

But yea I do agree.

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