Enshoku
Smash Lord
pretty boy(girl?) didn't get nerfed in any place that counts...DD: Agreed. Although I like how Kirby seems to be way better. Maybe some of the elitists will shut up now that a lot of their characters got nerfed.
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Official Brawl Tier Discussion (OP Updated)
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Sully1113
Smash Cadet
I dont think many people are giving Kirby any credit. He deserves high mid tier IMO. he has become more agile in the air and many moves like his bair fair and nair have been buffed.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
>.> Marth was sorta changed a bit, so you can't play him EXACTLY like he was in Melee...which I suppose is a nerf in of itself.
However, no one has taken the time to know other characters as much as we already know Marth, which is why everyone is already jumping into a "Zomg Marth is top tier."
Will Marth be top tier? Probably.
Do we have anything other than the fact we already 'know' how to play him?
No.
Like I said, still too early.
Just return to your character's boards and continue smiling over all their improvements.
-DD
However, no one has taken the time to know other characters as much as we already know Marth, which is why everyone is already jumping into a "Zomg Marth is top tier."
Will Marth be top tier? Probably.
Do we have anything other than the fact we already 'know' how to play him?
No.
Like I said, still too early.
Just return to your character's boards and continue smiling over all their improvements.
-DD
Enshoku
Smash Lord
none of the spacies are being called top, only sonic-lucario-marth...
Enshoku
Smash Lord
I can't really think of anyone who sucks enough to be bottom...
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Judging by everybody saying that "*Insert Brawl Character* is going to top tier...", I'm guessing that Brawl's bottom tier will judged by not how bad a character is, but, instead, how good they aren't.
Droly
Smash Ace
that was a lie tier list are all about how broke a char is
Enshoku
Smash Lord
didn't ur mum evar tell ju that tires don exits?
ANYWAY....getting back on topic.
I believe Zelda should definitly be moved up a tier. She isn't the Zelda of Melee anymore. Her Din's Fire has gotten some priority. Not to mention several of her movesets have been buffed up. You could even cancel the landing lag of her recovery.
It's still too early to tell, but Peach Might be knocked down a tier (Possibly upper or Mid tier). She has got some buffs here and there, but because of her symbolized moves and techs ripped from Brawl, it could be hard for players to compete like they did with Melee.
EDIT: Crap, how can I forget about Bowser?
He's gotten so many buffs he's actually playable to some or several people. The New addition of the Koopa Klaw would be handy if you wanna be the Boozercide of Kirby. There's just so much other things to consider about this Koopa. He could be mid tier, but in the right hands (like DJ Nintendo, Gimpyfish, and several other top playing Boozers) he could be high tier.
You know, I don't think there shouldn't be a low tier, because all the characters seem so well balanced, it all comes down to the person's taste. Any character could perform well in a certain situation.
I believe Zelda should definitly be moved up a tier. She isn't the Zelda of Melee anymore. Her Din's Fire has gotten some priority. Not to mention several of her movesets have been buffed up. You could even cancel the landing lag of her recovery.
It's still too early to tell, but Peach Might be knocked down a tier (Possibly upper or Mid tier). She has got some buffs here and there, but because of her symbolized moves and techs ripped from Brawl, it could be hard for players to compete like they did with Melee.
EDIT: Crap, how can I forget about Bowser?
He's gotten so many buffs he's actually playable to some or several people. The New addition of the Koopa Klaw would be handy if you wanna be the Boozercide of Kirby. There's just so much other things to consider about this Koopa. He could be mid tier, but in the right hands (like DJ Nintendo, Gimpyfish, and several other top playing Boozers) he could be high tier.
You know, I don't think there shouldn't be a low tier, because all the characters seem so well balanced, it all comes down to the person's taste. Any character could perform well in a certain situation.
Enshoku
Smash Lord
every fighting game has high and low tiers, if guilty gear has them, ssbb will too...
aethercide>boswercide=kirbycide>suicdedede
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The best way to make a tier list would be for whenever a tournament is held, the results include which characters each person used. Obviously once we see certain characters placing at every tournament, then people can really start deriving a tier list from actual data.
But as I said in my previous post in this thread, we should wait like 6 months to get a collection going. And all the tournaments should be sent to Nealdt and archived in TIA.
But as I said in my previous post in this thread, we should wait like 6 months to get a collection going. And all the tournaments should be sent to Nealdt and archived in TIA.
Hanniah
Smash Cadet
Just a thing I thought about: there WILL be a bottom tier, since it'll at least contain one caracter: GANONDORF. He is just sooo slow. His running is less fast than Kirby's walking (or almost).
Bottom Tier
Ganondorf
Fixed.
Bottom Tier
Ganondorf
Fixed.
Miller
Smash Lord
Well Ganon isnt a guarentted bottom tier, He has amazing techchasing which will give him some points. His Bair is still amazing aswell.
I think Pit should around the Middle/High tier area and Ike in Middle. These are the only characters that I actually play so I cant give my thoughts about anyone else.
I think Pit should around the Middle/High tier area and Ike in Middle. These are the only characters that I actually play so I cant give my thoughts about anyone else.
Johnknight1
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Everyone is broken. Which is good, and how it should be. However, one I get my hands on TOO[N] AWSOME YOUNG LINK, the tiers will die. Because he'll be soooo broken, it'll be INSANE!!!
Seriously, Bowser (Koopacide), Marth (only because he's the same as Melee, but slightly damage-wise nerfed, no uber combos, and less range), Ike (power), etc. look good. However, everyone who's play Brawl thus far will suck compared to how good the smash community will become in a about half a year to a year, guarenteed.
Seriously, Bowser (Koopacide), Marth (only because he's the same as Melee, but slightly damage-wise nerfed, no uber combos, and less range), Ike (power), etc. look good. However, everyone who's play Brawl thus far will suck compared to how good the smash community will become in a about half a year to a year, guarenteed.
Zook
Perpetual Lazy Bum
Question: Is there yet a tier list for speed and weight? I haven't seen any yet...
BigRick
Smash Master
Prediction from a guy that has never played the game (I admit):
Yoshi will suck.
Yoshi will suck.
Brentos4o8
Smash Ace
From Brawl Central:
http://brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_23(1).jpg
This is the % from which they die from a Mario Side+A Smash from the center of FD.
So I guess this is a weight Tier list?
joeysmash
Smash Ace
Ack Olimar would be at least high tier if n0t for his shzzy recovery.
True. I guess I should've said bottom tier...because no one really sucks in that game. How can a balanced character suck? O.o
lol
True. I guess I should've said bottom tier...because no one really sucks in that game. How can a balanced character suck? O.o
lol
kenkowtow
Smash Apprentice
Because broken characters are better.... if I understood what you said...
Layupfreak
Smash Ace
who knows who knows
I'm hoping that Donkey Kong will at least be able to compete in some way or another with the high tier characters. He seems a lot better in Brawl so I'm going to look forward to trying him out and (hopefully) kicking butt with him.
Pat/Pro
Smash Ace
haha are you kidding me. Lucas is amazing. He is my main character and ive yet to see a character that matches up well against him.
The tiers shouldn't change too dramatically, one of the main influences is speed due to the lack of the wavedash and L-cancelling. If people that played as shiek and fox are used to a fast-paced game without these, they'll be able to adapt to brawl a lot quicker than others like that aren't used to it. Glad to see all the broken characters though, good stuff ;p. Psy.
I'm not too sure about Donkey Kong, but I think he's gotten good. He can sweetspot the ledge better when he Up-Bs (that's what I heard/saw so far with Bum playing). Bum also said, and I quote 'His back air looks sexier' Because it has a more Samus aran kick. lol
Agreed to a point. Lucas is definitly different then Ness, but I'm not sure as to who can beat him. Remember, we all suck right now. But no Lie, he is impressive.
SolidSonic
Smash Ace
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F**k Marth.
I'm sick of hearing about how "broken high tier" he is...
All of this hype just comes from his fanboys.
I'm sick of hearing about how "broken high tier" he is...
All of this hype just comes from his fanboys.
I'm seeing bowser go from near bottom to up there. Zelda was I see her rising up by alot. Mario is going down and luigi is going up. Those are some things i've seen and am am pretty sure of.
Opinions from ~ 10 hours of play.
I've only listed the one's that I have played.
Top
Pit
Marth
High
Fox
Falco
ROB
Olimer
Peach
Diddy
Dedede
Metaknight
Mid/High
Ike
Mario
PT (IMO Ivysaur - high, Charizard - mid/high , Squirtle - mid/low)
Luigi
Lucas
Lucario
Samus
Mid
Snake
Link
Sheik
Wario
ZSS
Sonic
Kirby
Zelda
Falcon
Low
Ness
Bowser
DK
I've only listed the one's that I have played.
Top
Pit
Marth
High
Fox
Falco
ROB
Olimer
Peach
Diddy
Dedede
Metaknight
Mid/High
Ike
Mario
PT (IMO Ivysaur - high, Charizard - mid/high , Squirtle - mid/low)
Luigi
Lucas
Lucario
Samus
Mid
Snake
Link
Sheik
Wario
ZSS
Sonic
Kirby
Zelda
Falcon
Low
Ness
Bowser
DK
Ripple
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way, way, off. there is absolutely no way that dk is worse than everyone considering he received nothing but buffs and I have a feeling that luigi is better than mario in this game
everlasting yayuhzz
Smash Champion
Tier list and the game isn't even out in America yet. This is sad. Stop trying to be important guys.
fail thread is fail
inb4lock
inb4lock
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
stopped reading there.
ZMan
Smash Master
What little I know/played
Top Tier;
Olimar (near broken)
King Dedede
Lucas
Marth
Ike
Hight Tier:
Wolf
Falco
Snake
Sonic
Meta Knight
Pit
Ness
Mid Tier:
Everyone else
Crap Tier:
Ice Climbers
I dnd't play everyone, sorry.
Top Tier;
Olimar (near broken)
King Dedede
Lucas
Marth
Ike
Hight Tier:
Wolf
Falco
Snake
Sonic
Meta Knight
Pit
Ness
Mid Tier:
Everyone else
Crap Tier:
Ice Climbers
I dnd't play everyone, sorry.
ZMan
Smash Master
Im mad triple post
ZMan
Smash Master
double post johns
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
Ike seems a little slow for a spot that high doesn't he?
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