[SA] Valhalla Smash Tournament Thread. Valhalla resumes October 1st!

[Eagle]

Can't we all just be good ol' chaps and play on FD, Smashville and Battlefield? :<

 

[Grim Tuesday]

In my opinion the only stage in the game should be Pokemon Stadium 2, there should be no character counter-picking system and items should be on.

But no one listens to me

 

[Ghostbone]

Can't we all just be good ol' chaps and play on FD, Smashville and Battlefield? :<

What a crap stage list for G&W

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Good point Ghostbone. And a stage-list that heavily favours high tier characters.

Like I said guys, after looking at every character's boards, regarding match-ups and stuff, PS2 is THE fairest stage. Every character board feels it is pretty much even for every match-up, no one picks it, no one counter-picks it. And it has lots of different stage elements to have enough variety.

EDIT: I'm making a PR list for Melee, just want to ask people a few questions:
1. Nova, in your personal opinion, who is better, you or 2SXC?
2. Jamie, how good are you now-a-days, and if I was to put you on, which character would I put next to you?
3. How good is Hybrid?
4. Who do you use, Ghost? (I have you done with YL at the moment)

 

[Ghostbone]

Yea I would have to agree with Pokemon Stadium 2 being the fairest stage, I doubt any characters (sonic maybe?) gain much of an advantage on the stage. Should become a starter :D
And yea I use Young Link at the moment....but eventually I'll try to learn Ganondorf and Falco.

 

[Leisha]

green greens and luigi's masion are terrible stages.... They're banned for a good reason.

Maybe for doubles, but singles is just stupid lol

 

[Grim Tuesday]

green greens and luigi's masion are terrible stages.... They're banned for a good reason.

Maybe for doubles, but singles is just stupid lol

Pretty much everyone in the Stage boards disgree with you, and the BBR.

There is nothing bannable about them.

 

[SethT]

oh no, I happen to agree with her...
Hate Luigi's Mansion and hate Green Greens if not more :3

 

[Ghostbone]

Disliking a stage isn't a valid reason to ban it though.....

 

[SethT]

Fine.

Uptilt/Upair locking inside Luigi's Mansion on the roofs is an incredibly easy way to rack up damage at low % along with the stalling.

Green Greens just ****s me off with the blocks. Many a time I've been casted into a bomb block killing me. That ****s me off a lot about Halberd as well (the ****ing claw) but the level changes so I've learn't to live.
I don't really know the technical aspects of Green Greens, nor do I intend to check it out while studying for exams o-o

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Thankyou Ghost.

I am so happy there is finally someone in the community who is neither indifferent (looking at you Chris and Shaun) or ridiculous on their competitive views (Everyone else) xD

You only get caught in Luigi's Mansion if you can't tech or DI.

And if you don't want to get hit by a bomb block, DON'T GET HIT IN THAT DIRECTION. You can easily survive on the stage if you just assume at all times that a bomb block will fall down on you if you go over the stack. That is why I always air dodge over the block stack.

 

[swordsaint]

i thought with SA getting more players your scene would become respectable.

What a ridiculous thought.

 

[Eagle]

Who are you? D:

 

[SethT]

Who are you? D:

that ^

:/ what gives you any right to decide how "respectable" we are? You don't know the majority of us irl, to decide that over the internet is rather snide.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

He's probably a bogan, he is from Perth after all.

 

[SethT]

He's probably a bogan, he is from Perth after all.

No need too cause hate D;

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It's all cool. I'm a bogan in some respects as well xD

 

[swordsaint]

im not even from perth

its your stagelists, you at least want to have some standard within our community. nevermind legalising stages that were banned for a long time for a reason.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

im not even from perth

its your stagelists, you at least want to have some standard within our community. nevermind legalising stages that were banned for a long time for a reason.

Such as...?

 

[Ghostbone]

If we want a standard we should use the BBR Recommended Ruleset...since that's kinda what it's for.

 

[zApollo]

Such as...?

He's just angry because Rainbow Cruise is legal here.

Edit:

Norfair is a perfectly fine stage. The hazards are easily as avoidable as those on brinstar/halberd. Furthermore its role as a counterpick is excellent as it really favours characters with a good platform game (not limited to high tiers) and it discourages camping significantly.

Again, I am strongly against Green Greens and Luigi's mansion being legal. It's infinitely easier to set up locks on LM as well.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

You can't lock on LM as far as I can tell. Only grab infinite against Wario.

 

[Eagle]

Apollo just likes Norfair because that slutty ZSS just goes gymnastic all over it.

Gah.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I like Norfair because normal Samus ***** on it xD

 

[Ghostbone]

Norfair is also great for G&W :D

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Everybody wins!

I'd assume that Zelda is good on it, Nova?

 

[SethT]

Terrible course for MK <3

 

[Ghostbone]

I don't really think Norfair is bad for MK at all....lol

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Hence the sarcasm in that post.

 

[SethT]

yeah :3 as far as I know, there isn't really a terribly bad course for MK.
Worse is def's FD, that being said, one of my favorites for some ******** reason.

 

[Ghostbone]

Oh lol, sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet :/.
FD isn't even that bad, it's just most of the high tier character (snake, diddy, falco) love that stage. It would probably be MK's best stage against G&W, Jigglypuff, and a few others

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Green Greens is MK's worst stage.

 

[Ghostbone]

Nah I would say Yoshi's Island (melee) is worse for him

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I was talking about legal stages according to the BBR ruleset.

 

[Ghostbone]

It is legal according to the 3.1 ruleset?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Oh. Silly me

Why do you think this stage is bad for MK?

 

[Ghostbone]

Well, one of MK's best aspects is his amazing off-stage and gimp game, which is basically made a lot worse on this stage, as YI (M) has very close boundaries, and a walk-off on one side. It also has a low ceiling, which is also bad for MK. Plus this stage is really good for someone like Olimar (basically everything that's bad for MK on this stage is good for him, lol, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has an advantage against MK on this stage.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Green Greens is similar in those respects. I think both could be considered his worst stage.

 

[Eagle]

They should be deleted and everyone just play final destination.

 

[Luneth]

They should be deleted and everyone just play final destination.

for that to work you would have to ban mk....