Seibrik's New AT (HYPEEEE)

[SaltyKracka]

Considering how those tumble frames don't even last long enough for a fall from a BF platform to the ground, it's not enough for any of the stuff you people have been talking about.

 

[Sosuke]

*sigh* It DOES guarantee things. Test it yourself.

 

[thexsunrosered]

Except Snake won't be able to break Shield's with what you guys are talking about.

gg.

You can if their shield is depleted enough, say you baited something, then did the thing followed by a thing that I can't say idk where the mine came in though

@Salty
For a time, you are unable to do anything due to some weird freefall animation (you are stuck in it for x frames if you were pushed off while shielding) therefore some things WOULD be guarenteed. (AFAIK)

I believe its similar to the midair footstool mechanic, when you're in that sort of immobile spinning state, and without giving to much away, I KNOW that there are follow ups guarenteed. DLA and myself just did some testing for about 45 minutes and yeah its legit.

 

[ChewyChase]

Dair then buffer a FSJ? Is it even possible to buffer a FSJ?

 

[Sosuke]

Dash attack -> footstool jump. No Dair.
I don't mean to ruin it for seibrik, but making big threads about it before it's even announced and making such a big deal out if it is =/.

 

[Coney]

*sigh* It DOES guarantee things. Test it yourself.

still doesn't answer applications as for shield-breaking. any ideas on that, or do you think this is a similar concept applied differently?

 

[Hype]

I've seen Falco do a DACUS to someone's shield > cancelled off the ledge > Bair. This DESTROYS shield. It's a dash attack then an Usmash then a Bair before they can let go of shield.

Edit: when you do the Dash attack thign off teh ledge your opponent can stay on teh stage.

 

[thexsunrosered]

Dash attack -> footstool jump. No Dair.

you're really ruining it for everyone =[

 

[Sosuke]

still doesn't answer applications as for shield-breaking. any ideas on that, or do you think this is a similar concept applied differently?

Not everyone always has a full shield. =/

you're really ruining it for everyone =[

Sorry, I'll stop posting then.

 

[ChewyChase]

Dash attack to footstool jump is unlikely, because it wouldn't work for characters with completely grounded dash attacks, or possibly even those that get some air (like snake) with their dash attacks. It would just damage instead of being able to jump afterward, during or before the attack.

 

[Grey Belnades]

come on my dude, don't ruin it for seibrik, even if it is know that big of a deal =/

If it is something that has been known then it should be ruined.

 

[SaltyKracka]

Dash attack -> footstool jump. No Dair.
I don't mean to ruin it for seibrik, but making big threads about it before it's even announced and making such a big deal out if it is =/.

DA to footstool jump is certainly possible, but it's hardly news or important, either. Being footstooled right by the ledge only means anything if you're playing a character with **** recovery, like Link or Ganon, and even then they can still get up pretty easily.

 

[Hype]

This also works with running Usmashes, not just dash attacks.

 

[ChewyChase]

DA off the edge to footstool IS possible, I was thinking near the edge instead of off-edge. Somehow a broken shield has to play into this.

 

[Hype]

OK this is how the broken shield part works.

Sometimes when you do this dash attack/Usmash off teh ledge your opponent will stay on the stage. you can do Dash attack/Usmash to an instant Bair or something. Which can really mess up a shield.

 

[thexsunrosered]

This also works with running Usmashes, not just dash attacks.

true true

10

 

[ShadowLink84]

I wasted 10 minutes on this topic thinking it would be something worthwhile -_-

*goes away depressed*

 

[thexsunrosered]

yeah guys stop giving it away :/

 

[ChewyChase]

Luigi, GW, Diddy and Kirby can't do that then? At this point we're just making combos out of stuff we know.

 

[Alfa]

After watching the Ganon boards compilation video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dc9bps1ch0
I noticed at 5:41, Koskinator, as Ganondorf playing Snake on Norfair, when standing at the edge of one of the dropthrough platforms, whilst Snake is shielding, Ganon Ftilts the shield, then (probably due to buffering) instantly Fairs, hitting the snake. This might have something to do with it, as Snake and DDD could theoretically Ftilt to Uair after being knocked off to produce similar results (maybe jumping before the Uair). I don't believe that characters like GW could do this, do to hitboxes being in unpreffered places or too laggy. Just throwing this out there, although it probably isn't it, it still could be quite interesting to see what could be done with this.

Also, 2:14 to 2:34 is win, despite the fact I main Bowser.

 

[Grey Belnades]

yeah guys stop giving it away :/

 

[TheZhuKeeper]

Not everyone always has a full shield. =/



Sorry, I'll stop posting then.

Sorry, this is really random but, how the hell did you the name Sasuke... Bowser? LOL.

And I think I've met you before, just not sure where.

 

[thexsunrosered]

xDDD
10chars

 

[Boofy!]

I wasted 10 minutes on this topic thinking it would be something worthwhile -_-

*goes away depressed*

well people got mad hyped so anything short of groundbreaking is bound to disappoint.. anyway if this is the AT people have been psyched about then sounds nice.. still waiting for confirmation and a video.

 

[SuSa]

I don't think it's what you all think it is.

Also if it is, grab breaking is better and just as situational.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AazGPU3xjVI#t=01m08s

 

[.AC.]

LOOOOOOOOL

amazing.

 

[ChewyChase]

Going nowhere with the current ideas, but let's get back to the jab lock animation and dthrows/side-b. They all put them on the ground on their back, which you can then start jab locking them... there must be some sort of thing you can do during the jab lock frames to immobilize your opponent for a while, and I don't think it's any sort of long combo.

 

[Boofy!]

^it's already been said it has nothing to do with jab locks

 

[Magik0722]

ignore this

 

[chimpact]

Grab breaking is OLDDDDD news. And most characters can only do it to DDD.

 

[SuSa]

Grab breaking is OLDDDDD news. And most characters can only do it to DDD.

And exactly how much testing was put into it?

"It's so situational it will never happened"

/has gone from 4 times in one day, to 7 times in two days

 

[Mota]

LOl omg hype. Sound overhyped though lol.

Has to be grounded something...

 

[BleachigoZX]

So now we have to find out what moves can force this, unless only Dash attack works on ledges. Or on platform some characters with absurd tilts.

 

[Mota]

Wait a sec, has the AT been released yet? What it it?@!

 

[GHNeko]

You guys talk too much. God.

 

[SuSa]

OMFG THIS IS AMAZING!!!

Finally! The vids up! And oh...god... it was... wow!

 

[Hylian]

Wait....


WHAT?

 

[GHNeko]

OMFG THIS IS AMAZING!!!

Finally! The vids up! And oh...god... it was... wow!

Major mindgame.

I totally google'd Seibrik's name to get his YT Channel to find....

Nothing.

GGs. CP?

 

[:mad:]

TOO GOOD.

Cool story, bro. Good troll.

 

[Sosuke]

...... What