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My point is MK is too good, not me. I still have absolutely no play time with any of the really good players around here asside from a couple friendly doubles matches. And why do you always want to money match me? Even if you do win you always hate playing against me.
I just happen to have 2 hours of class starting from 12. So no can do this time.
<--- DKHa! Last Saturday I played a bit of barlw 3-for-alls after my several month boycott and I was terrible. Then I picked up MK and by around the fifth match, the two guys I was playing against had to play as Pit and DK AND team up on me the entire match to beat me, and I still got them both to their last stocks and over 100% damage. Srsly, MK too good and it ain't that hard to pick him up, which is why I don't want him banned because it's the only character I can beat anyone with.
See below.
Ah, well that sucks. Another time, maybe?I just happen to have 2 hours of class starting from 12. So no can do this time.
I don't think any of us here are "top tier" at Fox so I said that "D-air + Shine + Up-Smash = Peach loses" is not as easy as it sounds on a really good Peach. Her slap takes you out of your sh-dair, full jump dair gives her too much time to react.
Yes I know I'm terrible I started playing smash competitively when brawl came out and just recently got melee and 64. I'm new to competitive smash but thanks for telling me I'm terrible >.>
it was a joke, but you're welcome
It's not a joke though. I know I'm terrible at smash.
Btw not going to this week's smashfest, hiking and clubbing.Thats because good peach players and good players in general don't think like that, I'm not calling anyone a bad player. There are certain things you can do that exceed playing simple. Like observing one move and countering it with one of you own moves and then occasionaly throwing one or two other moves to mix it up.Emblem: I met Shane in the U.S. a bunch of times. SW at Pound 3 as well. If you ask any really good Fox player, they will tell you their hardest/most uncomfortable match-up is Falco. Either that or Jiggs/Samus. I don't have to ask Shane or Otto to know, I've talked to PC, Wobbles, Sliq, and Tuar about it. Falco has more priority than Fox in general, and eats every move without question. Unless Fox can weave around his hitboxes and lasers, its **** hard to win.
Good Peaches will SDI the dair? Xif, Vidjo, Xelic DoH...or any of the good Peaches I played in the U.S. didn't d.i. any of my dairs. Nor did any good Peach d.i. PC Chris' dairs in matches. Do you have a super amazing Peach hiding in WC that can do this consistantly?
If the Foxes you know run around spamming dair into Peach without thinking...then I can see where you're coming from. Fox ***** Peach if he approaches carefully. Lasers, abuse the lag when she misses dsmash and punish. Uthrow uair after copious amounts of DD->force your opponent to lag some more->grab.
Peach has no speed and no aerial maneuverability. That being said, if the Fox is impulsive Peach dispatches him rather easily.
I'm at gage now... I was supposed to go home but silly Mastering physics came along. Come smash, Toby and I are here. 778three 22 five 2 61I just happen to have 2 hours of class starting from 12. So no can do this time.
Of course Fox has an advantage on Peach, I didn't deny that. But SDing the dair is a no-brainer, and happens all the time -- which is why you see in Fox dittos people often dair-grab instead.Emblem: I met Shane in the U.S. a bunch of times. SW at Pound 3 as well. If you ask any really good Fox player, they will tell you their hardest/most uncomfortable match-up is Falco. Either that or Jiggs/Samus. I don't have to ask Shane or Otto to know, I've talked to PC, Wobbles, Sliq, and Tuar about it. Falco has more priority than Fox in general, and eats every move without question. Unless Fox can weave around his hitboxes and lasers, its **** hard to win.
Good Peaches will SDI the dair? Xif, Vidjo, Xelic DoH...or any of the good Peaches I played in the U.S. didn't d.i. any of my dairs. Nor did any good Peach d.i. PC Chris' dairs in matches. Do you have a super amazing Peach hiding in WC that can do this consistantly?
If the Foxes you know run around spamming dair into Peach without thinking...then I can see where you're coming from. Fox ***** Peach if he approaches carefully. Lasers, abuse the lag when she misses dsmash and punish. Uthrow uair after copious amounts of DD->force your opponent to lag some more->grab.
Peach has no speed and no aerial maneuverability. That being said, if the Fox is impulsive Peach dispatches him rather easily.
This argument is stupid. You're asking if they go their main or not. Of course they go their main, but that doesn't mean it's even. >_> Vwins plays Peach against Falco, but he mains Peach/Sheik now from what I understand.
And people said I don't play top tier characters. He said it, not me! See the quote?
This guy's starting to sound a bit crazy to me.
Your argument makes sense. However, you're not putting into consideration that SW stopped playing Fox for a long time and mained Falco (and has a very strong Falco), and that Vwins has a **** Marth. I guess what I'm trying to say is that those people have very good secondaries they could whip out against Falco, but often still use Fox. That would imply that Fox is not so overpowered by Falco as it was made out to be.
RaynEX's guide to fox mccloudRaynEX said:
I beat you to it lolHoly crap. It happened. Someone hacked wavedashing into Brawl.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199260
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRvelIMdAw
Also, I didn't think we'd ever see another Melee tier list. I'm glad to see Doc only moved down one spot. It's too bad I still can't enter him into low tier tourneys.
