The official Pivot Walking (and PW Crouching) thread.

[HeroMystic]

It's good with Luigi if you DW once, then let go of A and dsmash.

EDIT: LOL XD try pressing forawd down on C instead of up back :3 the character crouches briefly, then returns to standing position

Luigi can pretty much already do that without the DP.

I think that crouching think was Smooth Booting, which is just another version of the Craq Walk.

 

[ShadowLink84]

This was discovered a long time ago actually.
I forgot who did it originally but they provided a video showing the exact same thing.

The entire topic ended up devolving on what it would be called. I cannot recall the name of the topic so I'll search it out.

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

Omg, i just found a new confusing variation, press up back, then down vorward, and repeat, it looks really nice XD

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

This was discovered a long time ago actually.
I forgot who did it originally but they provided a video showing the exact same thing.

The entire topic ended up devolving on what it would be called. I cannot recall the name of the topic so I'll search it out.

Baaaw D: But still, we can't just ditch all this now XD maybe we shouldn't name it after me though XD

 

[ShadowLink84]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174137&highlight=crazy+walk


It was originally called the crazy walk.

 

[JOBOT]

lol i like the name doopwalking

 

[Dyyne]

**** haha that's so sweet. Nice find.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174137&highlight=crazy+walk


It was originally called the crazy walk.

We already established thatt. This is easier and I think they said it's faster, but I'm not sure.

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174137&highlight=crazy+walk


It was originally called the crazy walk.

actually, that doesn't seem to be like this at all...

And omg, varying between DWing and DWC (doop walk crouching) is REALLY confusing, and your characher can do a lot of wierd stull like spin 180 degrees, crouch, followed by a pivot ftilt O.o

 

[ShadowLink84]

*shrug* its basically the same thing really. Its easier not faster.

@doop: The reason it doesn't bear the exact same resemblance is because of the method used for the crazy walk. It involved tilting back and forward rather than your method.

 

[Sosuke]

>_>
Fake spin attack mindgames, **** yeah!
<_<

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

Yeah, your right. But easier=better if you ask me.

 

[ShadowLink84]

True enough.

 

[Asdioh]

>_>
Fake spin attack mindgames, **** yeah!
<_<

**** yeah, Seaking!

*goes to test this out with Kirby, Captain Falcon, and maybe some others*

 

[Daea]

The initial description is kind of confusing though -

If you hold A, walk and push the c-stick in a 45 degree back-up direction (requires C-stick set to smash), your character will spin 360 degrees, while still maintaining his forward velocity, and if you do this in the right pace your character will be continously spinning.

How are you supposed to hold A, walk with the control stick, and still push the c-stick, all at the same time..?

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

changing hand positions, or attack with another button i'm afraid D:

But seriously, if someone masters the DW AND the DWC, they will become masters of the mindgame.

 

[BentoBox]

You claw...

 

[JOBOT]

man i really like this tech for gw.. u can boost his dsmash and fsmash pretty well. I need to work on it more but its really fun


... and ya i dont like to claw but u kinda have to unless u change controls

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

and G&Ws are also the most confusing, your opponent will have no idea which direction you are facing XD

 

[JOBOT]

i just like to use it our of arials.. u can just glide into a dtilt for spacing or ftilt

 

[Vyse]

And as a tribute to this thread, I quote from the 'original' thread:

Oh god. Do you know how stupid the metagame will look if this is useful? We'll be spinning around like a bunch of ******* all day.

I love it.

If you didn't post it, I was.
Best, Fighting game metagame, ever.

 

[Mr.Fakeman]

hmmm.... I wonder how a doop walked reverse falcon punch would look like? (1080 degrees ) not really but yeah, your the man Doopliss Swe!

 

[Criosphinx]

DWC approaching to D-tilt with Rob is actually very useful.

Addendum: DW to Dashing Shield Grab with Marth is a good approach, too.

 

[SuSa]

You really need to update the OP.....

Also I got the most epic Marth vid

Doop Walk (Retreat)
Reverse Shield Breaker (B-Reversal on Shield Breaker)
Opponent was trying to catch up to me

Released B

Nearly fully charged Shield Breaker KO'd him.

It already won me a match. xD

 

[magikguy]

show the video :O

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

I just updated it with the DWC, but yeah, give me a list of what I need to update, and I'll do it. It's so much right now XD

I barely know anything about Marth, so I would appreciate a good, compact list of what advantages he gets.

 

[SuSa]

Update with my list of chars that have a good one (anyone with a ** in the vid descriptions)

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

k ;D

Well, gotto sleep now, I will update more tomorrow, nighty :3

 

[Criosphinx]

DW to Pit F-tilt at high percents is sex in kill power, and it punishes spot dodges.

I am realllllly liking this AT.

 

[Dyyne]

Dang, 10 pages already haha. I feel like this will be pretty revolutionary.

k ;D

Well, gotto sleep now, I will update more tomorrow, nighty :3

Darn you and your European time!

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

Yeah XD Well, I'll be here again in the morning (for you, that is XD It'll be afternoon here )

 

[Asdioh]

I wish I were more creative to see this as being useful...maybe I would if I played Melee with wavedashing (I didn't find out about wavedashing until I joined smashboards)

Anyway, my favorite thing to do is just hold still and press forward up (45 degree angle) on the C-stick, your character does a weird animation. My new taunt.

If you're having trouble with "the claw" hand position, set your R button to Attack instead of Shield, assuming you only use L to shield.

This General Tso's Chicken is freaking delicious.

Oh yeah, and Marth's pivot IS ridiculous. And so is his dash->dash, or foxtrot, or whatever you call that.

 

[deepseadiva]

Nobody I use has a good one.

Which is a good thing because I Bstick.

Great find Doopliss, hopefully this leads places!

 

[tocador]

maybe DW will be the anti-MK at that will save him from bannishment =O?

or maybe DW can lead into at's that will save him from bannishment and pwn mk's ***!

or maybe its just a fun AT wich wont help mk =/

 

[∫unk]

Having to move your standard controller grip to hold down A while doing c-stick makes this impractical.

If you set your non-shielding trigger to attack maybe that will make it easier.

 

[Criosphinx]

I have Z set to attack for Sheik's DACUS, anyway. This helps me tons.

X set to grab, btw.

Anyway, my favorite thing to do is just hold still and press forward up (45 degree angle) on the C-stick, your character does a weird animation. My new taunt.

I noticed this too. It's strange. I'm curious to know what that is the beggining animation of, and why exactly it cancels. It looks a bit like a dash animation starts.

Multi-edit (drift edition): It's the first frame of the characters walk animation. You can tell by setting the speed to 1/4th in training, then comparing the beggining of a walk / run. MK's is the most obvious, and when performing the >+^ direction on the C-stick while slowed, the animation similarities are obvious.

 

[Nintendevil]

this is... the sex.

 

[Asdioh]

I noticed this too. It's strange. I'm curious to know what that is the beggining animation of, and why exactly it cancels. It looks a bit like a dash animation starts.

Multi-edit (drift edition): It's the first frame of the characters walk animation. You can tell by setting the speed to 1/4th in training, then comparing the beggining of a walk / run. MK's is the most obvious, and when performing the >+^ direction on the C-stick while slowed, the animation similarities are obvious.

yeah I figured. It's something I liked to do anyway (just tilt the control stick to barely start walking, then set it to neutral, and repeat) except now I can do it while standing still :D

I also got Kirby to spam down crouch, but not the up crouch sound, by standing still and pressing c-stick down-right (when facing right) it makes me pretty happy.

 

[JOBOT]

i clawed to much my finger hurts now... also i found u can pop shields inbetween DW and spotdodge (stop dodge is hard to do)

 

[SuSa]

Doopliss:

Update the OP with the recommended setting of switching R or L (whatever you don't use to sheild) to attacks, to make it more comfortable to do this AT.

People apparently can't think of that for themselves -.-............

 

[Ayaz18]

wait can you interupt the doop walk and reverse the doop walk with anything at any time??

if so im replacing my run with this