The Silly Kyle Video Archive and Critique Thread

[Queen B. Kyon]

Will be updating soon aka when hiroi gets out of school hopefully lol

 

[deepseadiva]

Did you guys know that every single time, every single time you guys pull a turnip and don't move I'm like "Uggghhhhh".

Especially when you guys are running and stop to pull one. It's like "omg you people fail".

 

[Eddie G]

Did you guys know that every single time, every single time you guys pull a turnip and don't move I'm like "Uggghhhhh".

Especially when you guys are running and stop to pull one. It's like "omg you people fail".

So what? As long as we're already at a safe enough distance away to make a pull (which I often make sure I am), what's the point in sliding toward/away? The necessity to space/retreat from the opponent isn't present. Sometimes it's beneficial not to move and just read what the opponent will try to do (or not do) in response to the turnip pull.

It's similar to the Diddy mindset of waiting a split second to see how the opponent will react after bring hit by a banana if Diddy isn't close enough to immediately punish, except Peach should just wait with a turnip in hand.

B Stick sux. <3

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Don't be mean kb lol. I find bstick cool. I just couldn't use it.

 

[deepseadiva]

Oh, I didn't mean to imply it was wrong or anything.

It's just really awkward for me to watch videos of you guys. I'm just so accustomed to watching Peach move during a pull that every time she doesn't I'm caught off-guard.

Like dinosaurs stuck in a tar pit.

Just kinda funny.

 

[Eddie G]

LOL nice pic. xD

@ Kyon- I find it cool too, but it takes away more than it gives imho. Then again, I'm a stickler about working with default controls (with the exception of turning tap jump off for certain characters). But since Meno makes it work then he really is the unique Peach of us all lol.

Did you guys watch all of the vids?

 

[Metatitan]

B sticking is..... well B sticking. Try to look at the peach for what they do and not what the don't do as far as AT's go (because being a good player>knowing optional AT's)

 

[Meru.]

Just do it the Rickerdy way. L or R to special and ta-da, freepull. Or even better, do it like me: use the Wiichuck, D-pad to smashes and ta-da, freepull and optimal float control!!

But since you guys stick to that old-fashioned GC controller, I highly recommend listening to Rickerdy's advice. Freepulling is awesome!

 

[Eddie G]

B sticking is..... well B sticking. Try to look at the peach for what they do and not what the don't do as far as AT's go (because being a good player>knowing optional AT's)

This. Someone gets it. :3

 

[Two-Ell]

KB it was very interesting watching the matches as I recorded them. Your Peach is so spontaneous and you've got some good technical skill with the turnips. I get a little surprised even now how varied this character can be in other people's hands.

Kyon could you add these to the tips and tricks section? They're the two videos from my free pull guide. They both link back to the guide also if anyone happens to watch them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81dCQ60D4E Example: Non-BStick Free Pulling


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvJWSlouwwo Example: Non-BStick Free Pulling 2 With Pivoting

 

[-Cross-]

KB what method did you use to platform cancel in your match vs Omni? You seemed to be using shield. But then how did you instant platform drop after platform cancelling?

 

[Eddie G]

KB it was very interesting watching the matches as I recorded them. Your Peach is so spontaneous and you've got some good technical skill with the turnips. I get a little surprised even now how varied this character can be in other people's hands.

Thanks, I appreciate that. That is exactly how I look to build my Peach: around constant spontaneity. I'm glad it's becoming apparent to other eyes as well.

KB what method did you use to platform cancel in your match vs Omni? You seemed to be using shield. But then how did you instant platform drop after platform cancelling?

Yeah I use shield to platform cancel. To instant platform drop, all I did was hold down after I released the shield trigger as I landed. In fact, there are different ways to end up landing on the platform depending on even the slightest touch of the shield trigger and the amount of time you hold down as you land. It can vary between a light lagless landing, a landing with a bit of a pause and "oomph" feel to it (similar to a failed autocancel but not nearly as bad) which I consider an "incorrect" landing, and the instant platform drop by pressing down and shield, then releasing shield and still holding down afterward. It's not hard at all after the borderline religious practice I put into doing it and getting a feel for each timing. xD

 

[Razmakazi]

my net's been down. ima watch some of ya'll vids soon haha.

but maaan, where is the vid of me actually winning vs anuar's mk xD

it was a 3/5 set. game 2 is missing coz otherwise there would be no RC if he won them all LOL

it's all good. i gotta fix some spacing **** and if there we toads/dsmashes from far away it's a failed mannypull but i've been practicing my techs and i'm getting more consistent so ima try to use that stuff a lot more in game.

 

[Razmakazi]

Ill I at least got to watch ur set vs jerm and it's pretty coo. I think you react pretty slow to a lot of stuff though and I think it's because there are situations where you don't know what else you can do. A good example of this would be your 2nd stock on SV where he ***** you with that hilarious run past ur shield twice + empty sh hop + usmash just to deplete ur shield. As soon as you as him take even a step towards u you had other options y'kno. jab, retreat float fair, fh airdodge, gf nair, etc. just figure out where you feel you get stuck in your shield like that or where u choose to roll and try to think of other options so u don't fall into dumb ****.

oh, and i think that you shud add fastfall airdodge as a mix-up from your float more. Peach is super vulnerable in the air so on the way down you fell into a ton of Jerm's projectile combos b/c of her lack of options. Your moves get really telegraphed on the way down. You either fair or bair and jerm can just run away from it coz it's so telegraphed after your float and double jump are gone. Gotta get to that ground safely man. Prob cud also use going that high into the air with a turnip in hand also since u can still use your aerials anyway.

You're not rly doing anything badly I don't think, you just have options that you aren't using that might make Jerm a bit easier to fight.

 

[z00ted]

I dont think I was reacting slowly. But yeah there were alot more options that I could have done in that set and I have changed my playstyle a bit against him and am doing pretty well.

When is this going to get an update?

 

[TheJerm]

You aint doin shiiiii =]

 

[z00ted]

***** your free.

 

[Razmakazi]

well you get the point haha.

and it's all the same really b/c if you recognize the other options quicker then you'll be faster than you already are so I guess that's another way to say it

 

[z00ted]

Yeah I totally understand what your saying.
It's just practice, practice, practice.

 

[Praxis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4n0Uf77hWo

Me vs Rain
Where are my other Apex videos...

 

[Battletanx_Commander]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4n0Uf77hWo

Me vs Rain
Where are my other Apex videos...

First turnip pull and hit was awesome.

 

[Silly Kyle]

Hey guys, here's a recent video of me fighting my friend's Snake. He kinda gets wrecked by my Peach this match... usually he does better against me. Anywho... I try to freepull a few times this match. Still getting the timing down and I'm better at doing it now than I was in this video.

8/27/10
Silly Kyle vs. TommyDerMeister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1sLYNoYzQ

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Well Kyle I found that very entertaining. Good going . I'll add that later today.

 

[Silly Kyle]

I'm glad you liked it <3

 

[Airgemini]

****, you owned.
Loved it! :D

 

[Leon94]

A ditto peach in WF of a mid tiers tournament

me vs zudenka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43sT56aYwI

 

[Airgemini]

Yaaaay Leon got an account.
I love how fast you Peach is.

 

[Leon94]

lol yes sorry for not having registered rather but my english sucks but I often look at the message boards on

 

[deepseadiva]

lol yes sorry for not having registered rather but my english sucks but I often look at the message boards on

It's okay.

You're already more comprehensible and useful than most of the people on the board.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Ahhh finally, nice to see Leon is on SWF now

I wonder if in the future I can get some money together/pluck up some courage and go to a tourney in France, you guys seem to have some pretty frequent/large tourneys over there


Lol whenever I watch Peach ditto matches, I always think of the times I've played you Yaaay

Peach dittos are so stupid. Give me MK any day

 

[Leon94]

thanks man, I haven't a match against MK because My sole rival MK plyer it's Kaos, and He is **** at this match up, so I prefer Take marth against him.

My last match against kaos with peach : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S25AlwsL9Q

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

I thought you did really well considering it was on Rainbow Cruise...what an awful stage to fight MK on lol xD

I need to get myself over to these Bushido tourneys, do many people from the UK go to them?

 

[Meru.]

I thought you did really well considering it was on Rainbow Cruise...what an awful stage to fight MK on lol xD

I need to get myself over to these Bushido tourneys, do many people from the UK go to them?

Bushido is in France though

And iirc, a handful of UK players do visit, but tbh, if you want to go to a tourney, you should go to (a smaller) one in your own country first.

 

[LanceStern]

Is the french version of Brawl faster than the US one? They seem to move faster

 

[Meru.]

It are the Peaches that move faster.

The Japanese are even faster @_@ We should really learn those float tricks.

 

[Airgemini]

Exactly? I always think they speed up their videos slightly whenever I see Europe/Japanese Peach players. .__ .

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

I don't think all that movement doesn't you any good. Well not for me cause I'd get tired faster. And remember peach in japan isn't very good.

 

[Eddie G]

Movement fakes people out if you've got a quick wit. I love it, it's so ****. But admittedly there are slower paced Peaches that do equally as well. I suppose it's just a style thing.

 

[Meru.]

I don't think all that movement doesn't you any good. Well not for me cause I'd get tired faster. And remember peach in japan isn't very good.

Japanese Peaches are imo also not that good, but they apply Peach's movement skills really well and tbh, I actually do find it helpful because not only does it help her mobility, it's also confusing for your opponent and it can open a lot of options as you can do ANY attack after a quick float hop.

 

[lloDownedu74]

I think I saw some Japanese results where there were like 4 Peaches int top 13.... Idk, i might be imagining things.

But yeah, they do play really fast. My Peach is really slow, so it's pretty interesting to see how fast Peach can play