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~Gardevoir~ Most Awesome Shield-Caster Ever. Or so.

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Brawlman

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I dunno, you tell me.
Also, many people want to see Mewtwo leave also. That may be another spot right there. (Although I doubt Sakuri will take him out.)

And I think you're right Luke, why not have both? There! Problem solved!:grin:

Edit: New sig I found!
I don't know who made it. I just know that I didn't.
 

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Also, many people want to see Mewtwo leave also. That may be another spot right there. (Although I doubt Sakuri will take him out.)

And I think you're right Luke, why not have both? There! Problem solved!:grin:

Edit: New sig I found!
I don't know who made it. I just know that I didn't.
Whoa. That's seventeen kinds of cool, right there. Totally sigging it, and if you find out who did it be sure to mention. Now, since a single button looks bad in the sig, where's a Midna button to accompany this little gem... *goes searching*
 

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Whoa. That's seventeen kinds of cool, right there.
Eighteen, my friend. Eighteen.
It's also the reason why editing sucks. Because it takes over a week to notice the edit.

I'd sig it, but Leoneri's special sig for us is not outdated yet, and having both in would be tacky.
I might incorporate it once I get a decent design idea.
Although I was actually thinking of creating an own image again... *sigh*
 

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Gardevoir is a pretty good Pokemon, but Pokeball fodder at best I'm afraid. As popular as she is in Japan, I bet Jiggs is still more popular and everyone's 2nd favourite puffball is a smash vetern now so I don't think she'll get edged out. Mewtwo I'd love to see have a return to former glory in Brawl, which leaves pretty much 1 more Pokemon slot and unfortunately that'll go to Lucario. The rather generic, uninspired fighting Pokemon -_-;. Understandably so since he has a much bigger fanbase (especially outside of Japan) and a much bigger role in the anime/film, but that doesn't stop it from being a d*mn shame.

The way I see it, you have plenty of franchises that give you swords, seasoned fighters, energy beams/shots and the potential for stuff like fire/lightning etc. However it seems where Pokemon really shines is in the creation of it's more unique psychic Pokemon (e.g Mewtwo and Gardevoir) and none of the other franchises really play the psychic card, or not half as well as Pokemon can. Gardevoir would fit the psychic bill perfectly, and the completely different physique would offer a truly different experience (in the way say, Alakazam wouldn't).

But it's not going to happen. It's a waste really.
 

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You know, this is actually a good idea. Now, I'd rather have Mewtwo, but if he WAS replaced, I'd want him to be replaced with Gardevoir. I'll add her to my sig.
 

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What is this? All Pokemon threads are in upheaval, but this one remains quiet?

First of all, I want to extend my greets and thanks to our new supporters. A big w00t to you!

Secondly.... like... what do you think?
Chances reduced?
Chances raised? ( o_0 )
Chances still the same?

Sakurai seems to consider uniqueness the single most important factor in the inclusion of... things. Not just characters. He wants to get the most out of this format.
Is Gardevoir unique enough? I would say yes!
She still is the only Pokemon he addressed in his poll. That means he must see potential in her!
Will we see the dancing beauty after all? Will another Pokemon have to be cut for it?
How many Pokemon reps in total are actually appropriate?


Personally, I was frightened at first.
Throughout the weekend, I'd been daydreaming about the following update, because I had the feeling it would be a character update... Peach seemed obvious, maybe Ness. Maybe, I thought, he'd pull a Newcomer again and show Lucas. Then my thoughts went to Gardevoir, since Pokemon have been sort of neglected in terms of updates, but I didn't dare to hope for it.
Then the Pokemon update came, and after the panic from images of a Pokemon trainer fighting by himself, I came to love the idea...
But I dreaded what it means for more Pokemon.

But.
It's still a single character on the roster. The trainer. These are not three or four characters if you are talking about reps.
And I was reminded that Gardevoir was and still is the one to catch Sakurai's attention.

My hopes remain strong!
 

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How many Pokemon reps in total are actually appropriate?
There were more Mario series reps in Melee than Pokemon...

What would be cool is if Gardevoir is a character available in Brawl only unlockable if you attend a Nintendo event.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! It's bad enough that happens in Pokemon- let's not bring it into Brawl.
 

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It's been a long time, but I was told in another thread to list 5 reasons why Gardevoir should be in brawl, because apparently, I can't have an opinion on the matter if I haven't played a game she's in. :rolleyes:

5 - I haven't played a game she's in, and I know who and what she is. Obviously shows something. If Lucario and Deoxys were so popular, why haven't I heard of them prior to this forum? If they're so legendary, and their films so wonderful, why were they not mentioned at some point in my life? Gardevoir obviously has something the other two don't, something to promote acceptability towards the common non-pokemon-minded man. Especially considered the fanbase is supposedly twice as high for both of those other pokemon, how they have films, are "awesome" and whatever else it is fans of those two pokemon are spewing forth. If they were so wonderful, why have not only I not heard of them, why have none of my friends heard of them? Why have all my friends heard of Gardevoir? Luck? Nonsense. Circumstantial evidence is this? Sure. But pretty good evidence for something, I think.

4 - She's a dancer. That's awesome. I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon. How cool is a fighter pokemon? Not cool. Those are all over the place. Fire ones? Also everywhere. Dancing can allow an all new cool move-set added to with psychic attacks to make for something spectacular.

3 - She's awfully pretty. She's not super pronz material like Krystal or Samus, she's not super weird like Jigglypuff, she's simply attractive. She's also female (or considered such by most, even if male Gardevoir exist) and Sakurai not only stated he wanted more females, but Gardevoir was on his poll. But the real point is, attractive = good.

2 - She's popular on both sides of the pacific. People know who she is, even people who don't go around playing a bunch of pokemon games or watching their films.

1 - That emotion thing is awesome. Come on, she's the embrace pokemon! That alone puts her ahead of all the other pokemon (exept the obvious, like Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Mewtwo. ) What's that? Your Lucario has innate abilities with Aura? Pfft. My Gardevoir is better with plain old psychic abilities, and it also dances! Let's not forget how Gardevoir cares a ton for its trainer, while stupid Lucario questions pokemon/human relationships (and isn't even the first to do so, *and* did it in a far more crappy way than Mewtwo did). Anyway, I digress. The emotional attachment innate in Gardevoir is very original and just plain ol' cool, which could again lead to more originality than any other pokemon.


So there we go.
 

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<3

It's good to know I'm not alone with my fascination with Gardevoir's beauty.
It's a really interesting sort of prettiness, I think... she seems like someone's abstract art interpretation of a ballroom dancer.

...that seems like good stuff for a painting... *ponders*
 

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LightLink, if you don't mind my asking, how DID you and your friends come to know about Gardevoir? And was it all the same way, or did you each discover her in a different way?
 

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I haven't played a game she's in, and I know who and what she is.
Wow, you must be the greatest person to ever live.

LightLink17
If Lucario and Deoxys were so popular, why haven't I heard of them prior to this forum?
I don't know.

LightLink17
If they're so legendary
Lucario isn't legendary.

LightLink17
why were they not mentioned at some point in my life?
I don't know.

LightLink17
Gardevoir obviously has something the other two don't
crappiness?

LightLink17
Especially considered the fanbase is supposedly twice as high for both of those other pokemon
That would mean about 8 people like the other two.

LightLink17
If they were so wonderful, why have not only I not heard of them, why have none of my friends heard of them?
I DON'T FREAKING KNOW! Probably the same reason your parents didn't hug you enough. I can't answer these things. I'm not your therapist.

Tell me this. If Gardevoir doesn't suck than how come not only I think she sucks, but everyone that's not you and 3 other people thinks she sucks?

LightLink17
Why have all my friends heard of Gardevoir? Luck?
You're right... Gardevoir must be the most famous person in the world. Gardevoir - Hillary '08!

LightLink17
She's a dancer. That's awesome.
No it isn't.

LightLink17
I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon.
Or any at all.

LightLink17
How cool is a fighter pokemon? Not cool. Those are all over the place.
There aren't any fighting Pokemon in Smash Bros.

LightLink17
Fire ones? Also everywhere.
All one of them.

LightLink17
Dancing can allow an all new cool move-set added to with psychic attacks to make for something spectacular.
Yeah! For her B move, Gardevoir could dance her @#$ right out of the game and make room for Lucario.

LightLink17
She's awfully pretty. She's not super pronz material like Krystal or Samus, she's not super weird like Jigglypuff, she's simply attractive.
Have you and your friends ever seen a girl?

LightLink17
She's popular on both sides of the pacific.
No she's not.

LightLink17
People know who she is
No they don't. If they do, they wish they didn't.

LightLink17
That emotion thing is awesome. Come on, she's the embrace pokemon! That alone puts her ahead of all the other pokemon
In line for the suicide booth, maybe.
 

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It's been a long time, but I was told in another thread to list 5 reasons why Gardevoir should be in brawl, because apparently, I can't have an opinion on the matter if I haven't played a game she's in. :rolleyes:

5 - I haven't played a game she's in, and I know who and what she is. Obviously shows something. If Lucario and Deoxys were so popular, why haven't I heard of them prior to this forum? If they're so legendary, and their films so wonderful, why were they not mentioned at some point in my life? Gardevoir obviously has something the other two don't, something to promote acceptability towards the common non-pokemon-minded man. Especially considered the fanbase is supposedly twice as high for both of those other pokemon, how they have films, are "awesome" and whatever else it is fans of those two pokemon are spewing forth. If they were so wonderful, why have not only I not heard of them, why have none of my friends heard of them? Why have all my friends heard of Gardevoir? Luck? Nonsense. Circumstantial evidence is this? Sure. But pretty good evidence for something, I think.

4 - She's a dancer. That's awesome. I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon. How cool is a fighter pokemon? Not cool. Those are all over the place. Fire ones? Also everywhere. Dancing can allow an all new cool move-set added to with psychic attacks to make for something spectacular.

3 - She's awfully pretty. She's not super pronz material like Krystal or Samus, she's not super weird like Jigglypuff, she's simply attractive. She's also female (or considered such by most, even if male Gardevoir exist) and Sakurai not only stated he wanted more females, but Gardevoir was on his poll. But the real point is, attractive = good.

2 - She's popular on both sides of the pacific. People know who she is, even people who don't go around playing a bunch of pokemon games or watching their films.

1 - That emotion thing is awesome. Come on, she's the embrace pokemon! That alone puts her ahead of all the other pokemon (exept the obvious, like Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Mewtwo. ) What's that? Your Lucario has innate abilities with Aura? Pfft. My Gardevoir is better with plain old psychic abilities, and it also dances! Let's not forget how Gardevoir cares a ton for its trainer, while stupid Lucario questions pokemon/human relationships (and isn't even the first to do so, *and* did it in a far more crappy way than Mewtwo did). Anyway, I digress. The emotional attachment innate in Gardevoir is very original and just plain ol' cool, which could again lead to more originality than any other pokemon.


So there we go.

I hate people like you who say a character shouldn't be in just because you or friends haven't heard of them, as if the world revolves around you. The fact that you haven't played the game all but kills your argument. First off, Deoxys is in the same game. Second, Gardevoir's trademark feature isn't dancing, that honor goes to Spinda. Also, ALL pokemon care for their trainer provided that they aren't complete douchebags. Also, Gardevoir is very original, with it being Psychic & all, but Deoxys can only transform to various combat forms while Lucario is Fighting & Steel with the mundane ability to see others thoughts & movements by sensing their life force. Yeah, they're super lame.
 

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Wow. That ******* Lightlink got to this thread too?

Watching him fight with Freeman should turn out to be pretty entertaining.
 

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5 - I haven't played a game she's in, and I know who and what she is. Obviously shows something. If Lucario and Deoxys were so popular, why haven't I heard of them prior to this forum? If they're so legendary, and their films so wonderful, why were they not mentioned at some point in my life? Gardevoir obviously has something the other two don't, something to promote acceptability towards the common non-pokemon-minded man. Especially considered the fanbase is supposedly twice as high for both of those other pokemon, how they have films, are "awesome" and whatever else it is fans of those two pokemon are spewing forth. If they were so wonderful, why have not only I not heard of them, why have none of my friends heard of them? Why have all my friends heard of Gardevoir? Luck? Nonsense. Circumstantial evidence is this? Sure. But pretty good evidence for something, I think.
That has nothing to do with anything. Also, Toad says hi

4 - She's a dancer. That's awesome. I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon. How cool is a fighter pokemon? Not cool. Those are all over the place. Fire ones? Also everywhere. Dancing can allow an all new cool move-set added to with psychic attacks to make for something spectacular.
See above. Also, Sakurai could make a moveset for ANY pokemon

3 - She's awfully pretty. She's not super pronz material like Krystal or Samus, she's not super weird like Jigglypuff, she's simply attractive. She's also female (or considered such by most, even if male Gardevoir exist) and Sakurai not only stated he wanted more females, but Gardevoir was on his poll. But the real point is, attractive = good.
See first response. Also, Bower and Wario say hi

2 - She's popular on both sides of the pacific. People know who she is, even people who don't go around playing a bunch of pokemon games or watching their films.
And I supppose you can prove this, of course....

1 - That emotion thing is awesome. Come on, she's the embrace pokemon! That alone puts her ahead of all the other pokemon (exept the obvious, like Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and Mewtwo. ) What's that? Your Lucario has innate abilities with Aura? Pfft. My Gardevoir is better with plain old psychic abilities, and it also dances! Let's not forget how Gardevoir cares a ton for its trainer, while stupid Lucario questions pokemon/human relationships (and isn't even the first to do so, *and* did it in a far more crappy way than Mewtwo did). Anyway, I digress. The emotional attachment innate in Gardevoir is very original and just plain ol' cool, which could again lead to more originality than any other pokemon.
...Huh?

I'm sorry, that does not matter at all.
 

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Just to throw this in--all this is coming from a guy who claimed he's never played a single Pokemon game, and yet he's describing Gardevoir with great detail.
 

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LightLink, if you don't mind my asking, how DID you and your friends come to know about Gardevoir? And was it all the same way, or did you each discover her in a different way?
I know I saw a picture from somebody's devientart and I was like "Oh, that's cool" and looked her up. I know two of my friends only saw her because of porn, and I know that another one was told about her by somebody else. That's as much as I got.

Wow, you must be the greatest person to ever live.
Yeah. I like to think of myself as Thomas Jefferson, Charles Babbage, Albert Einstein, and Stephen King, all wrapped into one. With an extra dash of manlyness of course.
I don't know.
That's sad.
Lucario isn't legendary.
It should be obvious that I meant "legendary" as "well known." Hence I said "If they're so legendary."

crappiness?
No, I don't think that's it.

That would mean about 8 people like the other two.
No, I don't think so.

I DON'T FREAKING KNOW! Probably the same reason your parents didn't hug you enough. I can't answer these things. I'm not your therapist.
A therapist isn't trained to tell you why you haven't been exposed to something. That would probably be more along the lines of a sociologist.

Tell me this. If Gardevoir doesn't suck than how come not only I think she sucks, but everyone that's not you and 3 other people thinks she sucks?
Considering your statement is wrong...well, that's all there is to it. All I have to do is find myself, and 4 other people to prove you're stupid. Thanks for making it so easy. Let's see. I have my 3 other mentioned friends here. And Mr. Fawriel likes Gardevoir. Four. Your argument is now invalid.

Technically it's easier, since I only have to find people that don't think she "sucks." There's probably 4 people on this thread, so your argument is invalid again.

You're right... Gardevoir must be the most famous person in the world. Gardevoir - Hillary '08!
Eww. Hillary?

No it isn't.
Sure it is.

Or any at all.
Wonderful. That makes her even more unique. Thanks.

There aren't any fighting Pokemon in Smash Bros.
Who said anything about smash brothers? I was obviously revering to the pokemon universe. Why would I say "I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon (referring to pokemon, as you saw)" and then in the next breath "Fighting pokemon are all over the place (referring to smash brothers)". I wouldn't. It's illogical.

All one of them.
I think there is more than one fire pokemon in all of pokemon.

Yeah! For her B move, Gardevoir could dance her @#$ right out of the game and make room for Lucario.
Why would she need to move over for Lucario? Lucario isn't even cool.
Have you and your friends ever seen a girl?
Sure we have.
No she's not.
Yes she is.
I hate people like you who say a character shouldn't be in just because you or friends haven't heard of them, as if the world revolves around you.
My world does revolve around me. Everybody's world revolves around them. Humans naturally group things that they know as "important" and new things are obviously less "important" than old things. Things that we do are also more important than other things.

The fact that you haven't played the game all but kills your argument. First off, Deoxys is in the same game.
I guess it also stands to reason that since I'm a guy I can't talk about abortion rights, or because I'm white I can't talk about race issues.

And what do I care if Deoxys is in the same game?
Second, Gardevoir's trademark feature isn't dancing, that honor goes to Spinda.
I figured that other guy was lying. Hence I said "coolest." All other dancing pokemon are obviously not as cool as Gardevoir. Especially Spinda. Spinda isn't cool at all. And besides, what Spinda does doesn't seem to be too graceful to me. I wouldn't call it dancing.

Also, ALL pokemon care for their trainer provided that they aren't complete douchebags.
Not like Gardevoir. Most pokemon aren't eager to die for their trainer to protect them.
Also, Gardevoir is very original, with it being Psychic & all, but Deoxys can only transform to various combat forms while Lucario is Fighting & Steel with the mundane ability to see others thoughts & movements by sensing their life force. Yeah, they're super lame.
That is super lame. You might as well vote for Marry Sue for "best literary character ever."

That has nothing to do with anything. Also, Toad says hi
Why not?

Also, Sakurai could make a moveset for ANY pokemon

Sakurai could make a moveset for tetris blocks. Doesn't mean it'd be a cool moveset.

And I supppose you can prove this, of course....
Sure can, if I needed to.
I'm sorry, that does not matter at all.
Why not?
Just to throw this in--all this is coming from a guy who claimed he's never played a single Pokemon game, and yet he's describing Gardevoir with great detail.
You're really annoying, you know that? I said I haven't played a pokemon game since Blue. Big difference. But you're too stupid to notice such intricacies.
 
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I hate people like you who say a character shouldn't be in just because you or friends haven't heard of them, as if the world revolves around you. The fact that you haven't played the game all but kills your argument. First off, Deoxys is in the same game. Second, Gardevoir's trademark feature isn't dancing, that honor goes to Spinda. Also, ALL pokemon care for their trainer provided that they aren't complete douchebags. Also, Gardevoir is very original, with it being Psychic & all, but Deoxys can only transform to various combat forms while Lucario is Fighting & Steel with the mundane ability to see others thoughts & movements by sensing their life force. Yeah, they're super lame.
Wait was that sarcasm cause i agree with that... >_>;
 

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You're really annoying, you know that? I said I haven't played a pokemon game since Blue. Big difference. But you're too stupid to notice such intricacies.
You're totally right. My tiny brain can't wrap itself around such a concept.

Some great debater you are. All your points are either insults, or have no substance.
 

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I know two of my friends only saw her because of porn
You and your friends obviously like Gardevoir because you're perverts who find her attractive. You've already talked about how attractive she is like 9 different times and you're saying that your friends look at Gardevoir porn. I don't think they consider the lonely porn nerd demograph when they're deciding who should be in the game.

I know I saw a picture from somebody's devientart and I was like "Oh, that's cool" and looked her up.
I'll bet you did "look her up", you freaking weirdo.

It should be obvious that I meant "legendary" as "well known." Hence I said "If they're so legendary."
Well he's not legendary and he is well known.

Considering your statement is wrong...well, that's all there is to it. All I have to do is find myself, and 4 other people to prove you're stupid. Thanks for making it so easy. Let's see. I have my 3 other mentioned friends here. And Mr. Fawriel likes Gardevoir. Four. Your argument is now invalid.

Technically it's easier, since I only have to find people that don't think she "sucks." There's probably 4 people on this thread, so your argument is invalid again.
My statement isn't wrong. Gardevoir has a handful of lonely porn geeks who think she's hot. Everyone else doesn't want her in Brawl.

Wonderful. That makes her even more unique. Thanks.
None at all includes Gardevoir.

Who said anything about smash brothers?
Everybody. That's what the whole site is about.

I think there is more than one fire pokemon in all of pokemon.
There's only one in Smash Bros.

Why would she need to move over for Lucario?
She wouldn't, because she won't even be in the game in the first place.

It's pointless to argue about this. I guess if the all knowing king of the douches and his 3 friends who look at Gardevoir porn have never heard of Lucario, Lucario has no chance of getting in.
 

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You and your friends obviously like Gardevoir because you're perverts who find her attractive.
Nah. *I* find her attractive, but she's in general awesome. She can create miniature black holes! She dances! And that emotion thing she has going for her is awesomesauce. If she was *just* attractive, I wouldn't give too much of a hoot.
You've already talked about how attractive she is like 9 different times
Or like, once.
...and you're saying that your friends look at Gardevoir porn.
I said two of them found out about her that way. They don't *look* at it. One doesn't even look at porn, the other is into lolicon. But come on, you're just browsing 4chan one day, and BAMN! Gardevoir. It happens. Didn't happen to me, but it happens.

I don't think they consider the lonely porn nerd demograph when they're deciding who should be in the game.
Zero-Suit Samus?

I'll bet you did "look her up", you freaking weirdo.
Yep. Wikipedia. Tells me all I need to know.

My statement isn't wrong. Gardevoir has a handful of lonely porn geeks who think she's hot. Everyone else doesn't want her in Brawl.
Prove it.

Everybody. That's what the whole site is about.
You're pulling my turnips, right?

There's only one in Smash Bros.
Great. Nobody cares. Stick to what I say.

She wouldn't, because she won't even be in the game in the first place.

It's pointless to argue about this. I guess if the all knowing king of the douches and his 3 friends who look at Gardevoir porn have never heard of Lucario, Lucario has no chance of getting in.
I really hope Lucario doesn't get in. If he doesn't, I'm going to rub it all over your face. I won't even care about Gardevoir. Just Lucario. But it's okay. I'm certain Lucario isn't going to be in anyway.
 

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I don't really care if Lucario makes it or not. I wanted Red and Squirtle, and they both got in in one character. I just think Lucario is likely to be in Brawl, and there's no doubt in my mind that he would be 10,000 times better than Gardevoir.

Gardevoir, on the other hand, is a terrible choice and has basically no chance of getting in the game at all. Could you really see them giving some random Pokemon like Gardevoir its own character spot when Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard all had to share one?

I'm indifferent about Lucario, I just think he'll be in the game. You actually want Gardevoir in the game. So I guess when she doesn't get in(and she won't) I can rub it all in your face.
 

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What the HELL?

Did this have to happen?

I won't go down on that level.

Some great debater you are. All your points are either insults, or have no substance.
You have got to be kidding. That honor goes to Freeman, which I have reported him for now. He did say "stupid" or something at some points, but Jesus Christ, that's a fraction of what he's been getting from you guys. What the **** is up with you?
 

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Gardevoir, on the other hand, is a terrible choice and has basically no chance of getting in the game at all. Could you really see them giving some random Pokemon like Gardevoir its own character spot when Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard all had to share one?
I wouldn't say Gardevoir is a terrible choice. She is quite popular thought not as much as Lucario and others.

Though if she made it as a pokeball dweller, I'm good.

And don't put me in the pervert list. I despise porn (especially hentai).
 

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...Why the hell must this always end the same way? Why is it that people actually liking Gardevoir for what it is seems like such an alien concept? I don't mean freeman, he doesn't surprise me - as we all know from other threads, he's in possession of the absolute and utter truth about Life, the Universe and Everything ¬¬.

Anyway, I'll repeat my views. I consider Gardevoir one of my favorite pokémon, next to Weavile and Tyranitar. This is due to quite an accumulation of factors. First, she's rather powerful, sporting a Sp. Atk stat almost on par with competitive favorite Alakazam himself. Second, she's a psychic, and I like those. Third, I consider her to have a very beautiful design, in the same way a falcon flying is beautiful - not flashy, but graceful. Which is nothing but amplified by the fact that she's also a rather serene pokémon with a liking for dances. And fourth, I've always had a soft spot for people with high empathy, being one myself, and Gardevoir is but a magnification of this, being actually able to read and grow from other people's feelings.

All in all, I like this pokémon, and I've liked her since I played Sapphire. So I'd kindly request that you avoid implying that I don't exist, thank you very much. And no, I didn't find about her via porn. Hell, until it was discussed in this thread, I wouldn't even think that there could be people disgusting enough to turn Gardevoir, of all things, into a freaking porn icon. But then, I don't have an habit of looking at porn of any kind, so that's not that surprising. Call it blissful ignorance of Rule 34's pervasiveness.

Anyway, I'll get out of that before I start getting frustrated.

@Nuke: Yeah, Gardevoir as a pokéball would be fine by me as well. Roster spots are pretty limited as it is after all, moreso pokemon rep spots, and Lucario has a really huge fanbase that would be dissapointed if Garde got in before him (not me, though I do like Lucario a lot), so it seems rather unlikely to have her as playable. A pity, that. We need more magic/psi users in the game, not generic hitters with two projectiles. Ah well, I can still hope for Micaiah, and at least Lucario is as cool as hitters come :p. However, pokeballing her would be little effort and at least make us fans happy.
 

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What the HELL?

Did this have to happen?

I won't go down on that level.



You have got to be kidding. That honor goes to Freeman, which I have reported him for now. He did say "stupid" or something at some points, but Jesus Christ, that's a fraction of what he's been getting from you guys. What the **** is up with you?
On this thread, maybe. Have you seen some of his posts on the Diddy thread?
 

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Gardevoir, on the other hand, is a terrible choice and has basically no chance of getting in the game at all. Could you really see them giving some random Pokemon like Gardevoir its own character spot when Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard all had to share one?
Yeah. One word: Poll

The fact that Gardevoir was the only Pokemon to be on Sakurai's poll means something. Obviously she sticks out to Sakurai.
Call it blissful ignorance of Rule 34's pervasiveness.
I wish I had that, lol.

On this thread, maybe. Have you seen some of his posts on the Diddy thread?
You mean where I did the same thing until very recently?
 

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Ive never really liked this idea much, and when i first saw it i thought it was idiodic.But a few pople like you (and a certain girl Gardevoir fanatic over at NSider) have presented many good facts that make her one of the most plausible poke reps of season 3.
 

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You mean where I did the same thing until very recently?
Yup. Though if you plan to do your best to control the insults from here on, that would be fantastic (dare I say downright enjoyable to participate in). Just...I worry that the fact you've dug kind of a deep hole against the people you're arguing with will make that difficult for you. Most people aren't as nonjudgmental as I try to be. But it would certainly show you to be the bigger person in the end.
 

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Yup. Though if you plan to do your best to control the insults from here on, that would be fantastic (dare I say downright enjoyable to participate in). Just...I worry that the fact you've dug kind of a deep hole against the people you're arguing with will make that difficult for you.
I would agree there. At this point, I don't think it matters how nice I became. I've made enemies.

Ive never really liked this idea much, and when i first saw it i thought it was idiodic.But a few pople like you (and a certain girl Gardevoir fanatic over at NSider) have presented many good facts that make her one of the most plausible poke reps of season 3.
Even though I knew of Gardevoir and liked her before, it wasn't until I read this thread that I thought she had any chance at all of being in. After first reading the title, I was like "I like her and all, but come on! She has no chance!" But after reading this thread, I think she'd be a good inclusion, and has a chance.
 

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You know what I find funny? How Gardevoir, a character in a children's TV show, is supposedly only popular because of the fact she looks like a woman. So basically, the argument 'Gardevoir is only popular in hentai' is technically saying 'Any character who looks female is only popular in hentai'. Since that's what you're saying, that boosts Gardevoir's chances, as Peach, Zelda, and Samus are all female. All of them are featured in hentai, so is that the only reason they're popular? I'll let you decide.
 

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I know I saw a picture from somebody's devientart and I was like "Oh, that's cool" and looked her up. I know two of my friends only saw her because of porn, and I know that another one was told about her by somebody else. That's as much as I got.



Yeah. I like to think of myself as Thomas Jefferson, Charles Babbage, Albert Einstein, and Stephen King, all wrapped into one. With an extra dash of manlyness of course.


That's sad.


It should be obvious that I meant "legendary" as "well known." Hence I said "If they're so legendary."



No, I don't think that's it.



No, I don't think so.



A therapist isn't trained to tell you why you haven't been exposed to something. That would probably be more along the lines of a sociologist.



Considering your statement is wrong...well, that's all there is to it. All I have to do is find myself, and 4 other people to prove you're stupid. Thanks for making it so easy. Let's see. I have my 3 other mentioned friends here. And Mr. Fawriel likes Gardevoir. Four. Your argument is now invalid.

Technically it's easier, since I only have to find people that don't think she "sucks." There's probably 4 people on this thread, so your argument is invalid again.



Eww. Hillary?



Sure it is.



Wonderful. That makes her even more unique. Thanks.



Who said anything about smash brothers? I was obviously revering to the pokemon universe. Why would I say "I don't remember there being any other cool dancing pokemon (referring to pokemon, as you saw)" and then in the next breath "Fighting pokemon are all over the place (referring to smash brothers)". I wouldn't. It's illogical.



I think there is more than one fire pokemon in all of pokemon.



Why would she need to move over for Lucario? Lucario isn't even cool.


Sure we have.


Yes she is.


My world does revolve around me. Everybody's world revolves around them. Humans naturally group things that they know as "important" and new things are obviously less "important" than old things. Things that we do are also more important than other things.



I guess it also stands to reason that since I'm a guy I can't talk about abortion rights, or because I'm white I can't talk about race issues.

And what do I care if Deoxys is in the same game?


I figured that other guy was lying. Hence I said "coolest." All other dancing pokemon are obviously not as cool as Gardevoir. Especially Spinda. Spinda isn't cool at all. And besides, what Spinda does doesn't seem to be too graceful to me. I wouldn't call it dancing.



Not like Gardevoir. Most pokemon aren't eager to die for their trainer to protect them.


That is super lame. You might as well vote for Marry Sue for "best literary character ever."



Why not?




Sakurai could make a moveset for tetris blocks. Doesn't mean it'd be a cool moveset.



Sure can, if I needed to.


Why not?


You're really annoying, you know that? I said I haven't played a pokemon game since Blue. Big difference. But you're too stupid to notice such intricacies.
Every thing you said makes total sense. :]]]
 
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